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Originally Posted by B Radford  It is ironic that I am here representing CSICOP (now CSI) |
Yes I know that , I am just making sure all the readers know that.... and that they also know CSIcop's tactics....
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'...CSICOP has a policy of not conducting research itself, and this has reduced its vulnerability to criticism. Sociologists of science Pinch and Collins (1984) examined the benefits of this policy. They noted that CSICOP’s tactics:
'... can only be used in complete safety by organizations that do not engage in controversial science themselves. Only by avoiding having to face up to the problems of doing controversial science, and by avoiding the changed consciousness concerning scientific method which accompanies such engagement, can an attack from the canonical model be sustained without difficulty. (p. 539) ...'
In fact, they specifically suggested that the critics not engage in empirical research if they were to be effective in promoting their agenda. They pointed out that in controversial areas, qualified scientists are often engaged in disputes over research findings and interpretations and that a large component of establishing scientific knowledge involves human negotiation and not just “consulting the facts.” If CSICOP had continued to undertake its own research, scientists might again point out errors in its CSICOP and the Skeptics procedures and ambiguities in its interpretations. That could threaten CSICOP’s image of authority
CSICOP and the Skeptics: An Overview by George P. Hansen |
In otherwords, CSIcop do revisionism, look for ways to discredit a claim, imagine errors and present these like facts....they will avoid risking experiments that might not go their way.... unless raising the bar to demanding 'extraordinary evidence', not normal evidence.
So this sort of messy case is ideal for CSIcop, it isn't scientific research....nice and safe to offer skepticism of the gaps
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The rest of us are trying to understand this case and claims.
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Please continue .... I will respond to your points later.
