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Old 11-25-2007, 12:53 PM
David Bailey David Bailey is offline
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Originally Posted by Tor View Post

About these conscious entities... The way I view Stapp's work is in two steps. First is his own process description based on orthodox QM. This is what I feel is most firmly grounded in physics and my own intuition about things. And I don't feel the need for anything more than this.

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BTW, I think it is Zeno (he of the paradox!), not Zenon (the noble gas)!

I am never sure if Stapp's first step is exactly orthodox QM. The reason is that in orthodox QM you use a 'measuring apparatus' (assumed to be classical) - such as a photomultiplier tube - to make a measurement. In EPR (say) a conscious scientist can decide how to set the apparatus, and therefore which measurement to make, but the measurement is made by the apparatus. However in his explanation of consciousness the measuring apparatus seems to have become consciousness itself!

Stapp's work sometimes seems a bit verbose, and I find it hard to be sure what new elements he is injecting into the conventional picture.

David
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