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Old 11-27-2007, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos View Post
Are my memories stored in my brain or in the metamind? Sounds like the brain, but then there would have to be some sort of upload upon death.
No need for uploading theories yet, first you need to supply solid evidence all types of memory are within the brain. For example, where in the brain are long term memories stored? Can you provide evidence that memories are stored at the point of stimulation?

Since you raised the computer term 'upload', let us continue with your analogy. A computer system on the internet doesn't need to have all the websites it can access on its very own hard drive, the data can be remotely accessed. Yet some of it's data is local too. Other types of information can only be read in fragments and are not stored as a whole on computer (like streaming audio files under copyright protection). In fact if someone who didn't know how the whole internet system worked (just like we don't know how the brain works) they might apply pseudo-occam and state everything is generated by our hard drives and local computer system rather than an another invisible source.

Our physical brains are far in advanced of our internet structure, what makes you so sure nature didn't get there first? Why do you accept natural selection can create a complex brain beyond all current human knowledge, yet refuse to consider it could evolve a virtual reality?

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I think the biggest problem is the lack of any evidence whatsoever of the transceiver and filter in my brain. You have to postulate that it happens invisibly at the quantum level or some such, which is just so hokey.
Of course the brain is filtering. Even as a materialist you would have to accept the brain is filtering from your consciousness irrelevant or useless memories. The fact we can forget or are at times forgetful shows the brain does filter memory. Or do you think people with psychological problems never suppress memories? If you accept multiple personality disorder exists then you have to accept the brain filters memory ....

Much of the materialist's argument is based upon 'false memory' ..... tell me what specific evolutionary advantage was the capacity to have 'false memories' that do not match physical reality? How could that evolve, what are these are an epiphenomenon of?

Our physical senses filter our sense of reality. We can only see, hear, etc. part of the spectrum, by being responsive to a narrow area these are effectively filtering. Much like a virtual reality goggles, headphones, etc. don not just offer new sensory experience, these also shut out our normal reality (like unwanted interference) but a fuller reality still exists when the goggles (eyes) ,headphones (ears) or computer interface (brain filter) breaks down and dies.......and just like an NDE suggests survival?

Weak telepathy most probably exists – the evidence has been there since 1890 when the first statistical experiments on telepathy were done, what has followed to me looks like the gradual shifting of goalposts by materialists. *If* we accept weak telepathy, the most probably explanation of the general weakness is that the brain evolved to filter it out as unwanted external interference, loss of sense of individuality, contradictory information to physical reality, etc. In fact if stronger telepathy is ever accepted to exist, due to natural selection, this points very clearly to an external mind, not a physical brain filtering the brain.

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