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Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos It's of no significant disadvantage if [false memory] does not happen too often. Note that false memories rarely include disremembering where the pasta in your pantry is. We don't have the capacity to remember accurately, only well enough. |
I'm not satisfied with this answer, if we evolved the capacity to remember to any degree why has memory become so malleable? Why not evolve further to be less mallable or a mechanism develop to know better when memory has been tampered with. If our physical world is the only reality then due to natural selection the brain should have evolved not necessarily a perfect memory but one that cannot be so readily made false, a very accurate memory would be a major evolutionary advantage over a faulty 'false memory'.
OK I think you will argue next that the mind is 'filling in the gaps' but for whom? The answer must be the consciousness yet you believe the consciousness is an user illusion. For example if the mind only remembers points of information and fills in the gaps, the brain would evolve to fill in the gaps with common occurrences that follow physical reality, not with occurrences that do not model physical reality.
Natural Selection means an evolutionary advantage to this physical world *if* our physical world is all there was but since our minds are not doing that they are modeling things not belonging to physical reality.
We have the ability to lucidly dream, you claim this is a theatre of illusion created by the brain for an the illusion of consciousness and freewill ....
this is so contrived .... we have the ability to consciously change our lucid dreams (which don't match physical reality) How did all of this evolve via physical (only) natural selection? The solution IMHO is that we are evolving invisibly to our material existence which has been shut down by the physical senses to interface with physical reality. Our true minds may not be physical brains, but modellers of virtual realities, that can be shared with others (as indicated by dream telepathy experiments). Logically these virtual realities would strengthen when telepathy strengthens and evolve. And arguably telepathy strengthens after brain death.
Therefore 'false memory' arguments used by materialistic debunkers to be dismissive of psychic experiences are logically flawed. Natural selection favoured a memory recall process that doesn't rigidly follow physical reality Quote:
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The illusion of consciousness evolved so that the illusion of will could evolve.
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Paul that just sounds teleological and a contradiction of Neo Darwinism which is your materialistic model. Your model of reality states evolution is supposed to be a blind process, it has no direction. You are now adding a requirement of
illusion of willand 'will' implies a teleological process too. How could such steps of necessary illusion evolve via physical natural selection alone, when such illusions are contradictions of physical reality? It is one thing to argue imagination is an evolutionary advantage is it quite another thing to state it can evolve through a purely physical process of natural selection.
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The reason the illusion of will is so useful is that it causes me to decide that I have control over my actions.
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No evolutionary advantage here. As a materialist, I thought you believed the brain is making your decisions unconsciously and consciousness is a 'user illusion' as Dennet puts it? Do you believe that? Do you have free will or not, if yes, why are you talking about an 'illusion of will'? If you have free will, tell me the evolutionary advantage of an 'illusion of will' or if humans don't have free will tell me evolutionary advantage of deluded ourselves we have free will?
Materialists are hallucinating they are biological machines
