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Old 12-25-2009, 08:32 AM
Miguel Miguel is offline
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Oh heck I just used "Transubstantiation" as an example. The Catholic church has a doctrine that the communion wafer actually becomes a piece of Christ's flesh. To make the idea seem less silly, they give it a fancy name! I would argue that some words in the philosophy of consciousness - such as epiphenomenalism serve a similar role!
Why wouldn't bread and flesh have an immaterial component?
You dismiss this out of hand by calling it silly. How is what you do here any different to the close-mindedness you accuse skeptics of?

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Miguel - tell me you are not a Catholic!
Knowing something does not equal believing it.

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Let's not sidetrack this thread on the very first page - because I think the question of how science could explore the non-physical is important!
The catholic church has spent over 1500 years developing a detailed picture of the immaterial. How do you know that they are wrong?
When you can answer that question you will have your science of the immaterial.
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