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Old 11-29-2007, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mszlazak View Post
David Smith didn't provide any answer for you. Also, you want to have it both ways, one contradicting the other. First Smith and Stapp provide answers for you then you say that consciousness is beyond logic.
The fact that my consciousness is real, not some illusion, is beyond logic. But what it does is not.

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Same reason I go to a M.D. when I'm sick and not to a quantum physicist.
If consciousness is encountered at the quantum level, then surly it is relevant to ask a quantum physicist. But I'd rather that all fields work together to broaden our understanding. And as I said before, the other fields need to update their view of what physics is today, not just ignore QT as insignificant.

As an example of interdisciplinary biology work that actually does take quantum physics seriously, check out this abstract from Nature about quantum coherence in photosynthetic systems. This isn't about consciousness, but it shows that the usual objections against those that think QM effects in biology are important are misguided.

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