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Old 12-02-2007, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mszlazak View Post
The cornerstone of incompatibilism is the claim that if all human behaviour is completely determined by events that precede it then all human behaviour is inevitable.
Depends on what is meant by "inevitable". If I went back in time to some famous historical event, and suppose hypothetically that my presence had no effect on the environment whatsoever, then I would know what these historical people would say and behave. And likewise if someone traveled from the future and surreptitiously observed us, she would know how we would behave. Does that make my behaviour inevitable? Surely only in the most shallow insignificant sense.


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Libertarians have varieties of free-will that they want. One libertarian view wants a free-will that involves the notion of 'agent causation'. Agent causation is the idea that agents cause events directly, not in virtue of being in any particular state. You, not your desire for beer and your belief that there is beer in the fridge, are the ultimate cause of the fridge being opened. It's an appeal to a supernatural 'unmoved mover'.
Yes that what I believe in. But according to how you define determinism this definition of free will is not incompatible with it.
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