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Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos  That is not the same as saying "determinism means not random."
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He's said quite a few things which taken together entail that he believes that determinism means not random.
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It would be the same if we all agreed on what random means, but we don't. What we do appear to agree on is what deterministic means,
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I've never understood what determinism means. What does it mean if it's not defined as being not random??
I do on the other hand understand what random means -- at least I have some sort of vague idea.
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so that's the place to start from. Everything else is nondeterministic, or, in mathematical terms, random. You'd think that would be the end of the story, but libertarians have some interesting thoughts on what random means and whether there are various kinds of randomness and whether we can sneak some causality into it. Otherwise there ain't no place for free will.
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You are saying that a process is either random or deterministic? If that is the case, since free will is clearly not random (eg my limbs do not flail around in a haphazard manner but appear to be purposeful), then it follows that free will is compatible with determinism, yes?