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Old 12-07-2007, 06:43 AM
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No response?
Skidoo, to be honest I didn't think it was worthy of a response.

(Misinterpretation 1) I did not ask you for a definition of 'scientific skepticism', I clearly asked you to name 'scientific skeptics' and their published research.

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Huh? How do you "contrive" a noise argument in this context? Scientists had a theoretical model of the sun that predicted more neutrinos impacting the earth than what they were actually seeing. And in fact, after evaluating all of the evidence over time, the scientists actually self-adjusted one of their most fundamental models to account for apparent neutrino mass.
Skidoo, the analogy here could be pseudo-scientists (having done half baked research) also are contriving a noise theory. The evidence for psi has been reported by scientists (who have done the better research) for 80 years in labs (parapsychology) and even longer outside labs (psychical research) . It is just matter of time before psi is accepted.

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This is irrelevant. The physical model -- all of its parts intricately interrelated -- makes predictions. About neutrinos, among other things. Those predictions come true. Repeatedly. And when there is a discrepancy, the model is updated if necessary
You just are looking mid process. Psi will most probably be one day be accepted, probably when some other stronger (non-psi) phenomenon is eventually discovered modifying theoretical physics, making predictions about the existence of psi.

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There really is nothing there. No one is conspiring to squelch a bunch of positive psi experiment results. The fruits of psi research through history simply are what they are: Non-existent.
'....the overall results of parapsychological experimentation are indicative of an anomalous process of information transfer, and they are not marginal and neither are they impossible to replicate. In the face of this, the critic who merely goes on asserting there is no evidence for psi is using a tactic reminiscent of Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, Iraq’s former information Minister, in blindly asserting there are no American troops in Baghdad....'
Dr Adrian Parker, 'A compendium of evidence for psi'

Last edited by Open Mind; 12-07-2007 at 03:58 PM.. Reason: typed 'apology' rather than 'analogy' :-)
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