[skidoo]

Originally Posted by Open Mind

Skidoo you are now entering denial Novella confident claim was rebutted by a very simple TV set analogy where the TV broadcast (mind) is not created by the TV set (brain).

Good grief. Did you miss my previous message where I shot this down by adding a built-in DVD player to the TV set?

There is **zero** evidence for a non-physical source of the TV programming, and if the materialist position is supported by ever increasing MOUNTAINS of evidence, then the reasonable default position is that the TV set has a built-in DVD player. Any other non-falsifiable hypotheses are unnecessary.

Novella may sound super confident but he is just arguing the fallacy that correlation means causation. It is like arguing skid marks are the cause of car accidents.

No he is not arguing that correlation equals causation. Please. All he is saying is that there is no reason whatsoever to postulate an immaterial consciousness. There is no evidence for it. There is no need for it. On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence supporting the position that the brain creates the mind.

On top of this, contrary to Novella's claim that advances in knowledge support only materialism and not the brain as a filter of consciousness ....

Jeeze Louise. You're running in circles.

- No location found for consciousness, nothing like a central processing unit either

I already covered this. Consciousness of the gaps. Argument from ignorance. You can't disprove the existence of those psychedelically flatulent ponies either, not until we have the technology to search every square inch of the universe simultaneously, and even then...we might all live in the Matrix!

Until these are found or solved, all of these arguably suggest the brain is a filter of a mind whether interactive dualism (or idealism) more so than the physical brain creating the mind.

Right. And until every last transitional fossil is found, and every mechanism of evolution explained, the creationists are more likely to be correct. Come on.