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Originally Posted by skidoo  Wrong. Argument from ignorance. Do you deny the empirical evidence that destroying the brain destroys consciousness? Jesus. |
I do not deny that destroying other people's brains, certainly appears to destroy their consciousness from physical communication via physical senses. Do you believe you can go further than this?
If one looks into psychical research, witnesses claim empirical evidence of communication not via normal physical senses, of course materialists reject this a-priori or materialistic model becomes falsified.
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He died in 1976 at the age of 85. He never had an fMRI, and he's not the first scientist to turn into a nutbar in his latter years, as he approached his own impending mortality. And he also said something to the effect of, "There is no place in the brain where electrical stimulation will cause a patient to believe or to decide."
The implication being that the brain is not involved in decision making. Which we now know today is completely wrong. Catch up.
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But you should also note that those modern fMRI studies are seldom doing what Penfield was doing. Before brain surgery Penfield was electrically stimulating directly parts of the brain to see what would occur while the patient was still conscious, his experiments AFAIK have not been repeated in recent times, so Penfield's work remains valid
From what I can telling without buying subscriptions all of these are fMRI
correlations that could be interpreted or reinterpreted in various ways (I will try to check some out later and comment if these are claiming more than correlations)
You now accept fMRI correlations does not prove causations. Again, arguably these are just like monitoring a driver and car, with a camera showing regions called the steering wheel and pedals are activated then physicalists claiming this as evidence the steering wheel and pedals are involved in decision making of the car driver.
Correlation isn't enough, one needs to explain causation, how one aspect triggers another and so on
I am aware of most of these and they still do not falsify the brain as a filter of the mind hypothesis
Only one of those refers to recent research names I am not aware of ....... let me check it out.