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Old 04-02-2008, 02:29 PM
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If telepathy was real, the natural selection would have selected much more (because being able to read the mind of a predator is a very very strong evolution advantage), and the effect would be really obvious today.
No, this is the most common of mistakes by die-hard skeptics Telepathy found in parapsychology is not like a private telephone call from sender's brain to receiver's brain, it seems interactive even with experimenter. The effect seems stronger amongst friends, yet seemingly disrupted by rival or sceptic

Venom, if you shared perfect telepathy with a group of others. How would you know whose thought is whose? Are you now collectively a single mind or still separate minds? . All of this hints at a more collective interaction, difficult in nature to evolve more selective or private without shutting telepathy down in competitive environments.

In other words the brain evolved to filter out telepathy of minds, the exact opposite is occurring IMHO. Telepathy bubbles up from the unconscious level IMHO

The situation is slightly different for remote viewing and precognition. Now these indeed would be an incredible evolutionary advantage but these are weak in lab trials. Why didn't these evolve strong? Quite simply they aren't brain generated functions. The mind is not the same as the brain. You won't find any super-remote viewing dogs or super precognition dogs either IMHO .... I predict only stronger telepathy amongst animals than in humans, particularly those with less clear cut sense of individuality. In humans sense of individuality is strong, too strong to be great at telepathy IMHO.

What about claims of remote viewers with strong clairvoyance? Frankly if you ask the few good ones, they aren't sure if the information is being passed to them by another mind (such as a discarnate mind) or whether it is under their control ... most good ones believe in survival, not super-psi theory. ... however science is stuck in a paradigm that the brain generates consciousness, therefore psi. Scientists need to listen to the actual claimants, survival of consciousness is the reoccurring theme in most cases of strong phenomena ... not super-psychic powers under personal command, that more often belongs to the conjuring acts out to make a buck.

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I really thing that the "evolution argument" is against telepathy being real, and I don't understand Sheldrake's position (that it would be an evolutionary advantage, even with so subtle effects - such has parapsychologists claim to be real).
I don't know Sheldrake's exact position on this either ..... however I would predict Sheldrake's morphic resonance/formative causation effects will bubble up from an unconscious level, largely beyond our conscious control.

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