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Old 04-07-2008, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos View Post
I'll read some more of those articles you suggested. I've read a couple.

Seems to me, though, that he's using the QZE backward. The QZE supposedly prevents decay, for example, by freezing a system in a collapsed state using repeated measurement. He seems to be using it to keep a system from collapsing.
It may be that there is some spooky libertarian free will in this model yes
That has to do with the causal closure of the physical, and the proposed process zero wich controls process 1.
Also, I still don't understand what is making the "choice" among these superposed brain states. Where does the intention come from? Sounds like some sort of spooky libertarian free will.

~~ Paul
No, he is right about the QZE. Nature provides feedback from a measurement/observation, and if this feedback is what you are after then the QZE kicks in by what he calls repeated process 1 actions (measurements) and freezes the current state. In the brain this would be the activity needed to execute an intended action (like raising one arm if that was your intention).

Process Zero (which is linked to process 1 that is used to activate the Zeno effect) is what introduces what you think of as spooky
It has to do with the physical not being causally closed. Process Zero ties it all together.

I'm much to simplistic here. It's much better you read it yourself. It takes some time to digest (it's not a 1 hour task), and it's easier to understand by reading his book where he gives a coherent overview. His articles are a bit fragmented and you need to piece it together yourself.

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