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Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos  I did.
But we'll need it all over the place. Not just with humans. Not just with other animals. And not just with the ion channels in a brain.
~~ Paul |
Yes, that is true. And that is what Stapp claims (and so did von Neumann before him). The ion channels is just
one example of where in the body QM is relevant.
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Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos I did.
Do you think that the quantum worldview inexorably leads to our needing quantum mechanics to explain how I move my arm? |
Yes, how it is that your intention of moving your arm ends up with your arm actually moving in the intended direction, and not your body doing something else.
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Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos Except the free will part. That's still incoherent. But if everything else can be explained by four fundamental processes, that would be cool.
~~ Paul |
You always end up with something at the bottom that is just there and currently is hard to explain (but maybe not so in the future). To Stapp this is Process Zero. I agree that free will is tricky, and this part of his theory is where he postulates something to make it all add up (since physics is not causally closed
something is needed).
What I have always found most fascinating is that the lines between what we call physical and mental gets totally blurry when look a the universe (including us) through the QM lens. I like to think of it all as two sides of the same coin. Maybe someday we'll discover something deeper that we don't have fitting concepts to describe today.