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Old 04-07-2008, 03:34 PM
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos Paul C. Anagnostopoulos is offline
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Originally Posted by Tor
Yes, that is true. And that is what Stapp claims (and so did von Neumann before him). The ion channels is just one example of where in the body QM is relevant.
Yes, but why not all ion channels? Is my big toe conscious?

I have to say that I do not understand how any of this solves the hard problem or gives us libertarian free will.

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Yes, how it is that your intention of moving your arm ends up with your arm actually moving in the intended direction, and not your body doing something else.
But you think I need a quantum mechanical explanation for this, rather than simply a classical explanation? Can't a group of neurons maintain a pattern using classic mechanisms?

Do I need a quantum mechanical explanation for why a flower follows the sun?

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You always end up with something at the bottom that is just there and currently is hard to explain (but maybe not so in the future). To Stapp this is Process Zero. I agree that free will is tricky, and this part of his theory is where he postulates something to make it all add up (since physics is not causally closed something is needed).
I don't see how he's solved the hard problem, either. Why does my thought to move my arm feel the way it does?

~~ Paul
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