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Old 04-18-2008, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos View Post
And this problem is easily repaired by allowing for free decisions to be nonconscious. Otherwise you just admitted that you've never walked anywhere freely. Even if you claim that you made an initial free decision about your destination, you've lost any control over whether your body in fact walks to that chosen spot.
Paul (& Ian) , perhaps we have more than one type of freewill......

Hypothetical process ....
'.....Contemplation (type of freewill) -> prior habitual unconscious responses -> pattern subconsciously selected -> option to consciously intervene (another type of freewill) - > action -> full conscious experience of process result.

As Ian said .... '....They don't need to be free. Nay, we don't want them to be free. Just think how tedious it would be if when walking from A to B we had to consciously decide to put one foot in front of another every step of the way....

But how did something like this evolve, which is more fundamental, freewill or unconscious patterns?

(a) Freewill finds unconscious habitual patterns an evolutionary advantage (non materialism)

or

(b) Habitual patterns finds freewill an evolutionary advantage (materialism)

or

(c) both

Which do you prefer Paul?

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