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Old 04-22-2008, 12:47 PM
David Bailey David Bailey is offline
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Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos View Post
Well, it's pretty unsatisfying to consider them axioms. And in the case of libertarian free will, it's incoherent, so axiomatizing it doesn't help.

~~ Paul
Maybe they won't end up as 'axioms', but I think it is easy to start weakening the meaning of terms like free will. Perhaps we should refer to free will when we mean full free will as you grandma means it, and pseudo-free will for the watered down "organisms feel better if they think they have free will" type!

If libertarian free will is the common sense type (which I think it is) lets call it that. It is a shame to let these discussions descend into mere semantics.

In any case, constantly asking for definitions gets you nowhere. Here is a typical GOOGLE definition:

"the partial freedom of the agent, in acts of conscious choice, from the determining compulsion of heredity, environment and circumstance."

Clearly this definition gets you nowhere because it contains lots of words that also need (re)defining from a materialist point of view

David
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