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Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos  Hang on ... how does free will work under other metaphysics? |
In materialism the unconscious is the chooser, as consciousness is supposedly generated by unconscious processes.... however in idealism and dualism the consciousness is the chooser and unconscious processes are habitual responses.
The key difference is that in materialism there is no conscious free will so the person is a victim of unconscious responses and circumstances. In idealism and dualism the conscious chooser is held responsible for their actions and held somewhat responsible for creating their habitual unconscious responses.
Note this is neither determinism or unlimited free will! We cannot use our freewill to change past (an effect), we can only use our free will in present (a cause), which enters the past (an effect) which in turns again gives free choice in present (a cause) .... in other words we only have free will in how we react to what the past has brought.
In some eastern religions 'karma' doesn't mean fate as the west interpeted it, it meant the effect part of cause (freewill) -> effect (fate) ....chains of free will -> fate -> free will -> fate, etc.
Now having said that Paul, this could be wrong
as classical causality - the law of cause and effect, fell somewhat apart in quantum physics
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Originally Posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos It's a social construct under any metaphysic. Whether my wife finds out or not has nothing to do with whether adultery is ethical. |
You are correct. If a wife gave consent to have other partners, it would be hard to say it was ethically wrong action even although religion and society would say so. However, unlike religion, ethics is more based upon
consent. In this example I was assuming the opinion of the vast majority of partners that would disapprove of infidelity. In this case it is indeed unethical as they would not give
consent to their partner to be unfaithful to their relationship.
The point I was trying to make was in materialism, it is possible to wriggle around the issue of consent and argue the infidelity was not found out and will never be found out therefore was harmless and non hurtful to the relationship. However if survival is true, perhaps one's dead mother in law is perfectly aware of what her son in law is up to
Whether that puts any male or female off or not is another matter