[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

Originally Posted by Open Mind

If you are implying that it is only adults who believe in 'ghosts' who see collective appariations, this is not the case.

Of course not, but it takes some adults to legitimize ghosts.

Nor can one even dismiss children who claim to collectively see Santa Claus as beyond all possibility, if minds can share hallucinatory information via telepathy, as suggesting in dream telepathy lab studies, with odds of 22 billion to 1 against chance. If sharing an hallucination is possible, it might offer explanations of such things as alien abduction, etc. which might be shared subjective experiences but still not real to our world.

Of course there are shared hallucinations, but not because of some psychic thing, but rather because of cultural influences.

First materialists have to prove hallucination is only a brain function, I don't mean suggestive evidence, I mean decent evidence on how it works.

Sorry, but that's not how it works. Things are assumed to have a naturalistic explanation until someone comes up with compelling evidence otherwise. If we assume the opposite default, then scientists have to spend all their time convincing you that the horse fell over because it broke its ankle, rather than because a cadre of fairies played a joke on it.

Regardless, objectivity is the product of agreement between subjectivities. What alternative definition works?

Indeed, that's what objectivity is. The funny thing is that these objectively-agreed events keep happening even while we're not paying attention.

~~ Paul