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Old 06-29-2008, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by eyemsougly View Post
Hi, I'm new.
Not really my place to say this ..... but welcome to the forum

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what we need is a repeatable experiment, not excuses why we can't find one.
The results are arguably repeatable, just not repeatable in a manner to convert die-hard skeptics... fortunately science can test 'excuses' if specific .... and as you point out later ... it indeed works both ways, many skeptics critique of the ganzfeld has been shown to be unproven hypothetical flaws ... or vague claims of 'error some place' which are excuses to defend their viewpoint.

What everyone really wants is a much stronger more blatant psi effect! However ...perhaps we should be more enthusiastic psi seems commonly weak! What most people don't realize is that weak/unconscious/subconscious psi probably has far more intriguing and exciting consequence for mankind than strong/conscious psi in humans. It suggests psi didn't evolve like a physical (sixth) sense, it suggests the mind and brain are not quite the same thing. The stronger, the more conscious psi is, the more it would resemble other purely physical senses, psi as a physical conscious sixth sense should have become a major evolutionary advantage in many creatures, it didn't in humans All of this suggest psi is relating to something outside our perceived physical reality.

We cannot dismiss psi because of the small effect size Any statistical result beyond chance not via normal senses might be of immense importance. Science already has moved beyond common (physical) sense models of reality. Whilst skeptics may oppose non-scientific claims (with justification) everyone should be supporting modern parapsycholgical research, it is too important to ignore IMHO. If only modern parapsychologists would try to differentiate between minds and brains experimentally, I reckon they might make faster progress

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