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Originally Posted by Open Mind  This is misuse of Occams Razor, it is to choose between working hypotheses, not unworking ones. |
The unworking ones would be the idea that consciousness exist "somewhere" outside of out the brain right?
I mean that's the one who doesn't make any sense.
From that perspective, I agree that Occams Razor cannot cut between a scientific model (the consciousness is a by-product of the brain) and a unscientific one (the consciousness exist in a state that is outside of our reality, in a supernature place, and just correlates sometimes with brain activity). Said like that, I agree with you. The supernatural explanation is just non scientific (then no need of Occams Razor).
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Originally Posted by davidsmith73 I agree that saying consciousness exists "somewhere" is incoherent. Consciousness isn't a "thing" like a rock. It's existence itself. Rocks, and other "things" that have locations, are constructed from consciousness, i.e., they are experiences that form structured relationships (or perhaps we just conceive of as having formed relationships).
That's my take on all this anyway... |
You're definition of consciousness is like the Force in Star Wars. But where talking about individual consciousness here. If someone dies, but his consciousness survive, where can I observe it (or if you don't like the "where" question, at least answer the "how" one: how can I observe it?)? If during OBE the consciousness goes outside, how can I detect the fact that a consciousness is moving around the room for exemple?