Source of the energy

[RainCrow]

In Reiki, the training speaks of drawing energy from above in a "green ray," drawing it through the body, and releasing it into the client through the hand chakras. The energy is intensified by using certain Japanese symbols. It is necessary to have various attunements for the different levels of training.

In Quantum Touch, we are trained to draw energy from the earth up through the body and releasing it into the client through the hands and using various breathing techniques to intensify the energy. Upper levels have training in perceiving energy and making the effects last longer.

It EFT, the body's energy system is accessed by tapping on strategic point along certain meridians. Which point you tap almost seems not to matter as long as you tap a variety of points. Polarity is addressed as a matter of whether the person has "psychological reversal" (probably switched polarity as near as I can tell,) causing the person to want the wrong things. He may say he wants to get rid of the sadness, but then test that he really does not want to.

Polarity seems to be concerned with the direction of energy flow in the body. When energy flow is reversed, illness or some non-functionality is the result. This can be demonstrated by muscle testing.

There are other energy-based therapies that I do not know enough about to discuss, but what I theorize is that all these methods actually use the same energy systems, namely, the body's energy system and how it reacts with other energy systems. I think this energy is basically electrical, and as such, is affected by magnetism, electrical fields, contact with other peoples' energy, contact with deceased persons' energy, animals' energy, cosmic energy, and so on. Sometimes the effects are therapeutic, and sometimes very destructive, depending on many factors including intentionality.

In conclusion, it would be to everyone's betterment to learn about the human energy system and what affects it as part of the study of biology, health, psychology, and in disciplining children. Children should learn not only to avoid bopping their friends with sticks and stones, or using cutting remarks to hurt feelings, but also how to avoid harming another person energetically. Moreover, learning how to help someone energetically should be part of child training.

Can I have some discussion of this idea, including ways to accomplish it?

RainCrow

[jacob]

Great topic, Raincrow!

I'm very interested in the subject of human life force energy (qi, ki, prana) or whatever each system calls it. And it's great to find someone who's interested in these as well but, moreover, who's also studied various energy healing modalities. I've studied some Quantum Touch, EFT and other energy systems, so I understand what you talk about.

What I'm not sure, though, is that this energy is electrical in nature, as you propose. It doesn't feel like electrical, it doesn't behave like one and it's not directly measurable by electronic devices as far as I know.

That said, I don't exclude the possibility that it can influence some devices or electronic measurements. I've seen a paper by Dr. William Tiller who put an experienced meditator in a chamber, where he put wires around the person's position and measured deviations in electrical properties of the wires. He then saw, that when the meditator was asked to "radiate" his energy, there were readings on the wires at the same times.

Back to the energy source. From one point of view I find it disturbing that different energy healing systems display and teach of such different uses and sources of energy. On the other hand, sometime it seems that they talk of similar things but in different language and different uses.

Also, some systems are indeed different, like the chakra system coming from India (used in quantum touch and Reiki) and the meridian system, coming from Chinese medicine (used in EFT as well). These seem to be parallel system.

Donna Eden, author of Energy medicine book and the Energy Medicine Kit (see my review of the energy medicine kit by Donna Eden) and who claims that she actually sees all these energy systems, writes that they both exist but have different purposes, so to speak.


It would be interesting to teach children about that as well, but I guess it's not suitable for most of them, since these are quite advanced concepts, not tangible and might be just too sophisticated for most children, in my opinion. But that also depends on what age you think of when you say "children".

[RainCrow]

Here's a further comment on teaching children about uses of energy.

I was thinking that some of our teaching of "manners" to children may have originated in observation of how certain behaviors got to be labelled as "impolite." A few examples might be the prohibition of pointing at people, staring, whispering in polite company, etc. Any of these behaviors can have the effect of making others uncomfortable without any evident physical cause. It is interesting to speculate that these behaviors may in some "psi" manner disturb another's energy. Noteworthy also is the behavior of animals when stared at. Some take it as an aggressive act and may attack; many will not maintain eye contact; some will be frightened away or display uneasiness.

Maybe if instead of regulating behavior by saying it is impolite, it would be better (more truthful) to say that such behavior is unpleasant or harmful to the other person. Impolite is a very vague concept.

Persons who have taught Quantum Touch to their children (school - age) have reported instances of the child actually healing a playmate, (i.e. relieving pain or swelling) in case of injury. Children also take great delight in playing with energy by removing carbonation from someone's drink, for example.) I am not familiar with any reports of children (or others) using energy manipulation as a means to harm someone, unless it would be VooDoo, which is also an interesting thought. We are taught the use of energy as a healing activity influenced by love.

RainCrow

[Shellye]

I tihnk that the source of the energy also has a lot to do with our faith backgrounds and spiritual influences in our lives. Many see this as a life force, higher power, or G-d. I personally see the life force as something that is outside of me that flows through me. I am merely an instrument, or vessel that it is flowing through - the source is not me or the energy from my personal body.

I am not sure what to say about the research, I can only speak about my own personal experiences. I see energy and see it flow when my students "run energy" in Quantum Touch workshops. I can tell when injuries impede energy flow, etc. and one student tested me to see if I would notice that he was only running energy on one side of his body (yes, I passed the test!)

Just another perspective~

Shellye

[jacob]

I've moved the messages about Research of energy medicine to a separate thread.

Use this thread to continue discussion of source of energy.

[mahoward]

Regarding whether the source is internal or external and the body is used as a vessel, I would like to ask the following question: Can it be both?

I have read examples where one's own body was thought to be the source, which caused a drained / exhausted feeling when the healing was completed. I would assume that if the "vessel" method was used that the healer's own energy levels would maintain or possibly increase.

So could it be both, depending upon how one wishes to channel it?

[jacob]

I've heard explanations both way.
Both that healer can be just a channel and that he can use his own energy.
I don't know what to do with it.

[Talker]

Greetings to all,
Not aware of how else to do this post, to include two replies.
Talker
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From- mahoward
Regarding whether the source is internal or external and the body is used as a vessel, I would like to ask the following question: Can it be both?

I have read examples where one's own body was thought to be the source, which caused a drained / exhausted feeling when the healing was completed. I would assume that if the "vessel" method was used that the healer's own energy levels would maintain or possibly increase.

So could it be both, depending upon how one wishes to channel it?

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From- jacob
I've heard explanations both way.
Both that healer can be just a channel and that he can use his own energy.
I don't know what to do with it.

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Ah yes, how does one begin to explain the unexplainable ! So yes, a belief factor enters. Ones soul / spirit ambiance enters. Ones desire to help enters. Where one learned the process enters. This listing of " enters ", is quite long, to even get close to a lists, end, and then, one could still be missing the real truth of it all.
Desire, intent, and application, are the basics of all healing, by healers.
Willingness to accept a healing, by the one wanting to be healed, and this aspect is quite complex, and would again take, many thousands of words to describe why one would accept or decline a healing, at some level of their being. For now, will stay with the healer portion of this post. Strange as it may seem, and the problems it poses, a healer can have infirmities, be ill themselves, and / or even have a flavored past, and be a strong healer. One can be a kissing cousin to an angel, and fail at healing, if one can call it that. The healer need not even have a belief in healing, but if there is a strong desire and intent to heal, it will be so. All matter has energy, so we as humans also have life energy flowing, for our own use. ( I call it the God force, for lack of words or understanding to describe it ) One will diminish their own energy level, if they are not thinking correctly.( describing the correct thinking aspect, would again take many words ) So for now, lets go with this. Ones healing thinking, starts the connection. Ones healing intent, causes / creates a connection to that higher source, that I call God. The very mention of the God word, can be a source of conflict with many. So use what ever word, you would be comfortable with. It will not affect what you are doing, or intend to do, healing wise. The aura can be measured, if one has a strong aura, with good colors, you can heal. If the aura is weak, you will diminish your own energy level. So how does one get a strong auric level.
Proper intent and desire, with meditation, is the starting point. Now, that energy for healing ( regardless of from where ) is not a constant. It is not always strong. The engines, so to speak, must be cranked and started up, to make the proper connections. If any part of desire or intent is weak, so will all the healing aspects be weak. There are times when I am not at a fully charged energy level. Yet when some asks, for any healing assistance, a surge from " some where", kicks in and replenishes the reserve level. When one gives a hug, a kind word, a back massage, a kind thought, you are doing healing, and you are using energy to do so. There is no such thing as bad karma ( energy ) , but there is a balancing of energy, that is commonly called karma, with negative connotations that can take place. Energy is neither good or bad, it just is, Energies that one has, or uses, is like the electricity that we use everyday, but no one can truly explain it. Oh yes, one can describe electricity, but not explain the how of it.
Enough for now. Be Well.

[Shellye]

Sorry I did not seem to get the thread in my email and did not reply sooner. In terms of your energy vs. life force energy.... yes, energy workers run the risk of getting very drained from the work (thus the own energy).... this is why Quantum touch uses breathing techniques, designed to keep the life force energy moving - I have found that, as long as my students keep breathing, their own personal energy is fine and does not get drained.

Shellye

[longdraw]

check out this video.Amazing! this guy let paper on fire with his chi...
John Chang