I've created a new form of energy healing.

[TrueCures]

Originally Posted by hoggworks

I have indeed read through your website, which is exactly WHY I feel confident responding to you the way that I am. Why would you assume I wouldn't do the leg work and look at your claims?

Your choice of language is interesting. You speak as though we've had some connection, as though at one point in time I've been a proponent of your ... whatever it is ... and that I've turned my back on you. That's an odd thing to do.

Nope, I speak to you as if you are a guy who is wrestling with the truth. You don't know if you should let it in or not.

On one hand you would like to be healthy and disease free but on the other hand you like capitalism the way it is and we all know how fragile capitalism is.

You’re in too deep now to play the role of ignorance and say just help me cure myself and don't tell me anything about it. My own mom took that stance. She likes getting cured as much as anyone but doesn't want to know the reason cures are not made public. I have a lot of clients who are the same way, but you my twisted friend have dug yourself a hole. You know too much and there is no escaping the fact that your life will never be the same after you dropped down this rabbit hole.

Argue all you want with Toni1219, you’re the one in the pickle. There are others who are wrestling with the same issues. It’s only natural. But you don’t have a choice, if you want cured of an incurable disease you will use True Cures with or without my help or Toni1219.

There is only one cure, and True Cures is just the most effective way I know of getting there.

Go easy on Toni1219 and try not to give people the impression you are not worth saving.

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[Gilmour]

True Cures, I don't know how to pop up these previous quotes in the fancy style that all you other posters can, but. In your last post to Hoggworks, you said,

"Nope, I speak to you as if you are a guy who is wrestling with the truth. You don't know if you should let it in or not. "

What makes you say that? I don't know the guy/gal, but what makes you think that they are wrestling with something you have and might be afraid to let it in?

"On one hand you would like to be healthy and disease free but on the other hand you like capitalism the way it is and we all know how fragile capitalism is. "

What makes you think he has a disease..and what makes you think he is here promoting capitalism? Or at least in some "diseased" form you see it as? It allows you to peddle your wares here, doesn't it????

"You’re in too deep now to play the role of ignorance and say just help me cure myself and don't tell me anything about it. My own mom took that stance. She likes getting cured as much as anyone but doesn't want to know the reason cures are not made public. I have a lot of clients who are the same way, but you my twisted friend have dug yourself a hole. You know too much and there is no escaping the fact that your life will never be the same after you dropped down this rabbit hole."

Know too much about what??? You??? Certainly not. Your "cure"??? Again certainly not. Some type of broken Capitalisitic system that allows you to peddle your unknown wares to unsuspecting people??? Even that is a long stretch. You seem to know so much, but I guess it is only visible to you, because we have no idea what all of this gobbledygook means.

"Argue all you want with Toni1219, you’re the one in the pickle. There are others who are wrestling with the same issues. It’s only natural. But you don’t have a choice, if you want cured of an incurable disease you will use True Cures with or without my help or Toni1219."

I hate to bring Toni into this, because he/she seems like a nice person, and this is your ballgame. Again, more gobbledygook. People have been healing themselves or others long before you came along, and it wasn't by some True Cures method. If you have some knowledge and healing power, then great. But don't try to lay some power trip on us that this secret method is responsible for everybodies health improvements. It is absurd.

"There is only one cure, and True Cures is just the most effective way I know of getting there. "

Again, complete nonsense. I am glad if you have stumbled on to something, but many have reached the same goal traveling a completely different path - and it had nothing to do with "True Cures" or any semblence of it.

"Go easy on Toni1219 and try not to give people the impression you are not worth saving. "

I don't worry about Toni. Deep down, he/she seems like a nice person. And in terms of whether Hoggworks is worth saving...maybe you better look in the mirror buddy. And reflect on that.

[TrueCures]

Originally Posted by Gilmour

True Cures, I don't know how to pop up these previous quotes in the fancy style that all you other posters can, but. In your last post to Hoggworks, you said,

"Nope, I speak to you as if you are a guy who is wrestling with the truth. You don't know if you should let it in or not. "

What makes you say that? I don't know the guy/gal, but what makes you think that they are wrestling with something you have and might be afraid to let it in?

"On one hand you would like to be healthy and disease free but on the other hand you like capitalism the way it is and we all know how fragile capitalism is. "

What makes you think he has a disease..and what makes you think he is here promoting capitalism? Or at least in some "diseased" form you see it as? It allows you to peddle your wares here, doesn't it????

"You’re in too deep now to play the role of ignorance and say just help me cure myself and don't tell me anything about it. My own mom took that stance. She likes getting cured as much as anyone but doesn't want to know the reason cures are not made public. I have a lot of clients who are the same way, but you my twisted friend have dug yourself a hole. You know too much and there is no escaping the fact that your life will never be the same after you dropped down this rabbit hole."

Know too much about what??? You??? Certainly not. Your "cure"??? Again certainly not. Some type of broken Capitalisitic system that allows you to peddle your unknown wares to unsuspecting people??? Even that is a long stretch. You seem to know so much, but I guess it is only visible to you, because we have no idea what all of this gobbledygook means.

"Argue all you want with Toni1219, you’re the one in the pickle. There are others who are wrestling with the same issues. It’s only natural. But you don’t have a choice, if you want cured of an incurable disease you will use True Cures with or without my help or Toni1219."

I hate to bring Toni into this, because he/she seems like a nice person, and this is your ballgame. Again, more gobbledygook. People have been healing themselves or others long before you came along, and it wasn't by some True Cures method. If you have some knowledge and healing power, then great. But don't try to lay some power trip on us that this secret method is responsible for everybodies health improvements. It is absurd.

"There is only one cure, and True Cures is just the most effective way I know of getting there. "

Again, complete nonsense. I am glad if you have stumbled on to something, but many have reached the same goal traveling a completely different path - and it had nothing to do with "True Cures" or any semblence of it.

"Go easy on Toni1219 and try not to give people the impression you are not worth saving. "

I don't worry about Toni. Deep down, he/she seems like a nice person. And in terms of whether Hoggworks is worth saving...maybe you better look in the mirror buddy. And reflect on that.

Gilmour, good points and good questions. I'll answer you this way, first of all anyone with a minimal amount of common sense knows they are diseased unless they already use True Cures. I assume Hogg has enough common sense to know that he is not special and though he may not be diagnosed with a disease right now, he knows he is not going to be the ONLY exception to the rule. If Hogg thinks he is the only person outside of people who know cures to be disease free, you are right I must retract all my responses but I think he knows that if he is not diagnosed now, he will be in time.

As far as wrestling with the truth, why sure he is, just like every person is. You are, I am and everyone is. I wrestle with my truths and Hogg is smart enough to see the truth in my website but he is not in a particular place in his life to accept it now. Maybe it is because he feels he is disease free or maybe he still relies on lies to make a living which means he is just like everyone else with a career. The knowledge of cures really exposes the lies of the most popular careers. Despite your feelings, there is no question Hogg is wrestling with the truth, no question at all.

I don't know jack. You are the one assuming I know much. All I know are cures and because the rest of society tells you there are no cures you assume I know a lot. If you knew how easy cures are you would know I do not know a lot. Cures are a piece of cake, something anyone can do but not by hanging out on chat sites.

There is only one cure. It just so happens that True Cures is an honest no nonsense gimmick free way to be cured. You can use gimmicks to get to the ONE TRUE CURE, but it is a waste of time and money when you can just go straight to the cure which is what True Cures does. Toni1219 is not confident yet in True Cures but if she keeps it up and remains aggressive she will know that there is nothing more effective or efficient than True Cures. There is only one CURE anyone who does not know this is still selling lies.

I don't know for sure if Hogg is worth saving. That is part of my problem. I have yet to draw a line on who is or who isn't worth saving. I'm sure I could make a better living if I just considered the people with money worth saving but that means turning my back on people who are at the mercy of people with money in the first place.

Gilmour, we could discuss this for days but discussion and debate are designed to beat around the real issues without making any real discussions. Wouldn't you rather just speak frank and say what is on your mind?

What is it you want from me?
Do you want me to say other methods of healing are valid even if they are slow and less effective?

Are you wanting me to bill so I don't make others who do bill look bad?

Are you wanting me to shut up so the trade secrets are not let out of the bag?

Are you wanting me to ease up on medicine?

To quote John Wayne in McLintock, let’s get to the rat killing.

[Gilmour]

True Cures, I guess what I really want is just a little more detail. I don't expect you to give us an hour blow by blow with exact specifics of everything you do, just , well, something. It is just too vague for me to make up my mind if there is any validity to it or not. From what I can tell you are not giving a client anything to ingest, so the healing must come from some kind of touching, for lack of a better expression. Again, any more detail on what exactly you do would be greatly appreciated.

(Also - it appears you are teaching people this. They may never become as skilled as you at it, but sooner or later the cat is going to get out of the bag and there will be a detailed description on the internet for free. So you might as well at least give out some info - it may even bring in new clients).

[TrueCures]

Originally Posted by Gilmour

True Cures, I guess what I really want is just a little more detail. I don't expect you to give us an hour blow by blow with exact specifics of everything you do, just , well, something. It is just too vague for me to make up my mind if there is any validity to it or not. From what I can tell you are not giving a client anything to ingest, so the healing must come from some kind of touching, for lack of a better expression. Again, any more detail on what exactly you do would be greatly appreciated.

(Also - it appears you are teaching people this. They may never become as skilled as you at it, but sooner or later the cat is going to get out of the bag and there will be a detailed description on the internet for free. So you might as well at least give out some info - it may even bring in new clients).

First let me clear up one point, I am not worried about letting the cat out of the bag that is what I am trying to do. The resistance to cures comes from people who do not want the cat out of the bag.

What do I do? I don't have to touch a person to help them heal that is why I had to concede that what I do is energy healing. I hated the idea of being shackled with the stigma of doing "energy healing" or "energy work". I despise ineffective "energy work or healing" and that is why I came here to this forum to see if there were others close to 100% effective with energy healing. As soon as I posted my website others have contacted me who I can at least relate to. They haven't told me how effective they feel they are but I assume they are not apposed to being more effective and those are the people I enjoy visiting with.

Naturally Applied Kinesiology requires touch but I can use a surrogate person to test without touching the actual client. Energy is energy and it can be picked up at opposite ends of the room. To pick up energy and decipher it you must be able to practice accurate AK which so far seems unobtainable through schools. I can teach accurate AK easily to people who are willing to accept that they are not using accurate AK. I can't override pride. I can't teach True Cures to people who cannot let go of their pride.

In a nutshell I can command a body to address an issue. If I am accurate in my discovery of what is the issue and what is the correction my commands are well received and the cures begin. It is not an immediate cure, it can be a fast cure but not immediate. If the condition is related to viruses obviously the body must kill all the viruses. If it is a parasite issue clearly the parasites must be eliminated. If it is an autoimmune issue the body must repair the autoimmune.

When True Cures is performed effectively the body returns to the natural state it was intended to be in and the defense will stay up as long as reasonable discipline is maintained.

I eat fast food and I sometimes drink coffee when I wake up tired. These things are not good for me but as long as I do them in moderation and take every other precaution needed to remain disease free I can enjoy some of the simple pleasures of life. There is no hamana hamana guru eat only tofu or raw food diets required to be healthy and disease free. You just need to not over do anything, everything in moderation.

When I say True Cures is the base of all healing I am referring to the fact that when a person heals, they do it as their glands, organs and systems are intended to heal them. If you see a naturopath and you are healed it is because the body kicked in and healed its self just the same is if I helped not the remedy. If one day after 20 years of being allergic to bees you all the sudden get stung and not even a bump appears, you know that the body has corrected the condition on its own through the same method True Cures works.

Your body wants to heal, it just needs the opportunity and understanding how to utilize proper AK and learning the method of exchanging commands/energy you can cure yourself or let someone do the commands for you. Your body knows exactly what is wrong with it as it knows exactly what it need for healing. When you meet a new person for the first time your body subconsciously knows everything wrong with that person and they know what is wrong with you. The same as you visually see another person the bodies send and receive information automatically making you aware. "Accurate" AK is the means to consciously understand the information.

[Gilmour]

Fair enough True Cures. Can't say that I completely understand, but that is the best explanation I have seen you give of the little I have read of you here and there.

[hoggworks]

Originally Posted by Gilmour

Fair enough True Cures. Can't say that I completely understand, but that is the best explanation I have seen you give of the little I have read of you here and there.

I'm not sure how that's a good explanation in any conceivable way; he's basically just said "I heal you" without any explanation. Hell, he even says HE doesn't know what he's doing.

[TrueCures]

Originally Posted by hoggworks

I'm not sure how that's a good explanation in any conceivable way; he's basically just said "I heal you" without any explanation. Hell, he even says HE doesn't know what he's doing.

Good point hoggy. You showed that I am still superior to you despite my limited understanding because you can't explain it any better and you can't even heal yourself meaning you are as useless as teats on a boar hogg.

You could try a psychiatrist forum to help you deal with your inadequacies and save yourself the embarrassment of airing them out here. Just trying to do what I can to help you until you get the chance to see me in person.

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[TrueCures]

For those of you following this thread. Hoggwart is an easy target and I will use him relentlessly to show the flaws of being a mindless consumer with only a will to debate. I like Hoggy. I need him as much as he needs me.

I am fully aware that tough love does not always work and that I may be wasting my time with hoggy but others will read this who are really interested in cures and they will recognize part of themselves in hoggwallow and it will benefit them to know that wisdom is the answer not stubborn pride or a desire to debate as is evident with hoggslop.

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Anything outside of the physical cure is clearly hearsay. Asking me to prove a cure exist without seeing me is foolish and hoggwash.

[hoggworks]

True Cures, you're a very interesting study in delusional thinking.