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Old 06-17-2009, 08:17 PM
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Default I've created a new form of energy healing.

I refer to the method as True Cures and it is just like all other forms of energy healing minus the window dressing and it is very close to 100% effective.

I started out using AK and Total Body Modification and slowly took out all the gimmicks over the past 14 years and rendered it down to a pure energy healing. It really isn’t reasonable to say I have created it because it has always been here I just got to the meat of the matter and created a simple method of using it.

I really do not know anything about energy healing other than what I do. My clients have asked me if what I do is like this or that and have asked me about most of the methods mentioned here and I couldn’t answer them other than to say if they work they are similar to what I do.

My question is, which methods here are close to 100% effective even when working with people who are skeptical of energy healing? It is my understanding that the sickest of people who can still walk, eat sleep can be cure in less than two months. Are any of the methods discussed here as effective? Does anyone here guarantee the effectiveness?

I would post my site but wouldn’t want to get in trouble for doing so. Someone else can post it I assume.
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I refer to the method as True Cures and it is just like all other forms of energy healing minus the window dressing and it is very close to 100% effective.

I started out using AK and Total Body Modification and slowly took out all the gimmicks over the past 14 years and rendered it down to a pure energy healing. It really isn’t reasonable to say I have created it because it has always been here I just got to the meat of the matter and created a simple method of using it.

I really do not know anything about energy healing other than what I do. My clients have asked me if what I do is like this or that and have asked me about most of the methods mentioned here and I couldn’t answer them other than to say if they work they are similar to what I do.

My question is, which methods here are close to 100% effective even when working with people who are skeptical of energy healing? It is my understanding that the sickest of people who can still walk, eat sleep can be cure in less than two months. Are any of the methods discussed here as effective? Does anyone here guarantee the effectiveness?

I would post my site but wouldn’t want to get in trouble for doing so. Someone else can post it I assume.
If you don't know anything about other forms of energy healing, how do you know you've created a new form?

What do you base your understanding of cure times?
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If you don't know anything about other forms of energy healing, how do you know you've created a new form?

What do you base your understanding of cure times?
Good questions. I know enough about Alternative Medicine to know that what I do is not like it but the underlying art to it when Alternative medicine is effective.

I have heard a lot about other forms of "energy healing" from clients who have seen me and because they saw me I can only deduct that my work is different than the methods they tried in the past because my methods eliminate the need for follow ups with me and my clients no longer have the disease after seeing me.

I understand there may be others in energy healing just as effective as myself who are having the same issues I am having in sharing it. It seems "effective cures" are very difficult to promote. If you or others here are aware of people who are extremely effective I would like to know.

As for the timeframe for healing you asked about. I know from almost 14 years of helping people cure themselves. I know an average time the body needs to repair and I have done everything in my power to speed the time up.

For example; autoimmune issues can be cured in less than two weeks if a client follows procedure. It includes a short diet but after the two weeks they can eat whatever they want, even crab if they were previously allergic to it.

When a person is cured of asthma and they can run and play tennis without attacks it is pretty clear they are cured so I base my conclusion on that. I do not help people control asthma. I help them cure it.

I have yet to see a person take longer than two months to cure everything.

I don't spot treat issues. I do not even care what is wrong with people. I help them reset their systems to their proper and natural capability to heal and be disease free.

I don't need to know if a person has HIV or HSV. Every client becomes parasite free and that is enough to eliminate all viruses. I do like to follow up with clients suffering from aggressive bacteria like Lyme. Lyme bacteria can live in a person who does not have parasites while viruses cannot.

I hope that helps. I also hope I am not alone in what I do. I am not a person who appreciates hamana hamana energy healing and I hope to someday find others who are like minded.

One of my clients was telling me how an energy worker kept a bucket of water by the door so they could brush off the bad energies into the bucket of water and at that moment I was ashamed of calling myself an energy worker. What I do is as matter of fact as sleeping, eating and living.
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Good questions. I know enough about Alternative Medicine to know that what I do is not like it but the underlying art to it when Alternative medicine is effective.
That's funny, everything I've ever read shows that energy healing and all such woo are at BEST as good as the placebo effect, which is to say that they do nothing.

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For example; autoimmune issues can be cured in less than two weeks if a client follows procedure. It includes a short diet but after the two weeks they can eat whatever they want, even crab if they were previously allergic to it.
That's some seriously dangerous stuff to be doling around. Do you tell your clients to discontinue any conventional treatment they might be on during your "energy" therapies?

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I don't spot treat issues. I do not even care what is wrong with people. I help them reset their systems to their proper and natural capability to heal and be disease free.
You should read some medical books to understand exactly why people get sick, and why they get cured. Have you heard of germ theory? A person doesn't get sick because their systems are unbalanced; that simply isn't how it works.

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I don't need to know if a person has HIV or HSV. Every client becomes parasite free and that is enough to eliminate all viruses. I do like to follow up with clients suffering from aggressive bacteria like Lyme. Lyme bacteria can live in a person who does not have parasites while viruses cannot.
Again, you need to brush up on your understanding not just of medicine, but of the basic functioning of the human body. Where did you hear that viruses require parasites in order to live? What distinction do you draw between viruses and bacteria?

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One of my clients was telling me how an energy worker kept a bucket of water by the door so they could brush off the bad energies into the bucket of water and at that moment I was ashamed of calling myself an energy worker. What I do is as matter of fact as sleeping, eating and living.
I do agree that sloughing off your negative energy into a bucket is pretty silly, but I would doubt that yours would strike me as any less silly.

What you do may be as matter of fact as sleeping eating and living, but the efficacy of it probably isn't.
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That's funny, everything I've ever read shows that energy healing and all such woo are at BEST as good as the placebo effect, which is to say that they do nothing.
I guess it depends on what you read. Energy healing is surrounded my negative publicity most of which is well deserved. However it sounds like you do not understand "placebo effect". The reason the term exist is because it is what is used to "explain" a major “unexplained” change in someone's health which indicates it does something otherwise it would never be mentioned.

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That's some seriously dangerous stuff to be doling around. Do you tell your clients to discontinue any conventional treatment they might be on during your "energy" therapies?
My clients read, research, study, learn, think and make up their own minds most often by falling back on their own common sense as the quickly educate themselves on the fact that science is completely corrupt and says whatever the highest bidder pays them to say, medicine and pharmaceuticals typically being the highest bidder. My clients enjoy eating foods they were previous allergic too, don't you like seafood? What's wrong with them eating it if they are no longer allergic to it?

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You should read some medical books to understand exactly why people get sick, and why they get cured. Have you heard of germ theory? A person doesn't get sick because their systems are unbalanced; that simply isn't how it works.
Doctors, scientist and researchers should read my website so they can understand exactly why people get sick and how to help them cure themselves. You might give it a read before you decide to go further on with this discussion. There is a reason I refer to what I do as "True Cures".

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Again, you need to brush up on your understanding not just of medicine, but of the basic functioning of the human body. Where did you hear that viruses require parasites in order to live? What distinction do you draw between viruses and bacteria?
You fail to recognize that I can help a person cure any disease which means I know more about the Human Body than any Nobel Prize recipient. Part of being able to cure a disease is knowing the truth about the disease, again hence the name "True Cures". I win. You do not have a clue about the human body nor does your doctor.

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I do agree that sloughing off your negative energy into a bucket is pretty silly, but I would doubt that yours would strike me as any less silly.
I guess it all depends on what you search for. If you are here to attempt to make me look silly you will fail in doing so but you will succeed in destroying your own credibility if you still have some. I really do suggest you learn about me before you jump to any more ill informed conclusions.

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What you do may be as matter of fact as sleeping eating and living, but the efficacy of it probably isn't.
If you are indeed searching for truth you will soon know how efficient I am because you and I will meet and you will know first hand how efficient what I do is. If you are not searching for the truth, you are going to suffer your diseases and look mighty foolish in the process.

Why don't you post my website and see what everyone else thinks? You know they are going to think you are working for me the way you are setting me up to knock em down. Being right is a good place to be.
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I guess it depends on what you read. Energy healing is surrounded my negative publicity most of which is well deserved. However it sounds like you do not understand "placebo effect". The reason the term exist is because it is what is used to "explain" a major “unexplained” change in someone's health which indicates it does something otherwise it would never be mentioned.
Actually, no. That's not true. The placebo effect refers to a subjective change, not objective. If you give someone a sugar pill they think is real medicine, or a treatment they think is valid, they will "feel" better for a while and report a subjective increase, but the underlying condition is in no way affected. You could give someone a placebo as a treatment for a broken leg, for example, and while they might temporarily report a reduction in pain, their leg would be just as broken.

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My clients read, research, study, learn, think and make up their own minds most often by falling back on their own common sense as the quickly educate themselves on the fact that science is completely corrupt and says whatever the highest bidder pays them to say, medicine and pharmaceuticals typically being the highest bidder. My clients enjoy eating foods they were previous allergic too, don't you like seafood? What's wrong with them eating it if they are no longer allergic to it?
I would suggest that those clients were likely never allergic to the foods they're able to eat; you say that you do your energy treatment, then prescribe a healthy diet, yes? Perhaps a healthy diet is the real "energy" at work here.

A good friend of mine used to have severe reactions to shellfish, but after losing a lot of weight and getting healthy by way of diet and exercise, he was able to eat shellfish without issue. This isn't reflective of getting rid of an allergy, and in any case, he got healthy by purely conventional means, which seems to go in the face of what you're suggesting with your energy healing.

Also, you seem to need to meet a couple scientists; do you know any? There are bad apples, sure (as there are in EVERY field) but the VAST majority of them are in it because they want to be a force for good in the world.

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There is a reason I refer to what I do as "True Cures".
Yes, I know there is, and I know what it is. You may well have convinced yourself you cure people, but the bottom line has to do with the bottom line; you're going to probably get more people to pay you if you sell your woo as True Cures, rather than "Sometimes Helpful," or something similar.

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You fail to recognize that I can help a person cure any disease which means I know more about the Human Body than any Nobel Prize recipient. Part of being able to cure a disease is knowing the truth about the disease, again hence the name "True Cures". I win. You do not have a clue about the human body nor does your doctor.
How exactly did you come by this staggering wealth of knowledge, which has apparently eluded the directed efforts of millions of people?

You don't win, incidentally, by spouting gibberish of staggering ego and adding "I win" at the end.


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I guess it all depends on what you search for. If you are here to attempt to make me look silly you will fail in doing so but you will succeed in destroying your own credibility if you still have some. I really do suggest you learn about me before you jump to any more ill informed conclusions.
Sir, I've no need of trying to make you look silly, you're doing a bang-up job of that all by yourself.

I'd love to learn about you, but so far as I can tell, all you've done is say you're awesome with no references.

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If you are not searching for the truth, you are going to suffer your diseases and look mighty foolish in the process.
Is that a threat?

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Why don't you post my website and see what everyone else thinks? You know they are going to think you are working for me the way you are setting me up to knock em down. Being right is a good place to be.
I seriously doubt that anyone would suggest that I'm working for you in any capacity; I have significantly higher standards than that, and you've yet to knock a single one of "em" down.

Why would I post your website? I should have to do all of the legwork in helping you spread and then discredit your message? That sounds like a great deal.

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Having skimmed your site, I fail to see how it's different from any of the other "easy cure" gibberish on the web.

Also, as far as nebulous pie in the sky easy-cure baloney, it's very poorly written. If you're doing as well as you're implying on the site, you should be able to afford a copywriter.

You write on one page that it's said that we only use 5 to 10 percent of our brains. Is that a claim you're making, or just that you're repeating? Do you think it's true that we only use 5%-10% of our brains?


Last question, and this is truly serious: Do you have any understanding of germ theory? Do you understand what scientists say about the functioning of the human body, which you dismiss as corrupt and fact-free?
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Actually, no. That's not true. The placebo effect refers to a subjective change, not objective. If you give someone a sugar pill they think is real medicine, or a treatment they think is valid, they will "feel" better for a while and report a subjective increase, but the underlying condition is in no way affected. You could give someone a placebo as a treatment for a broken leg, for example, and while they might temporarily report a reduction in pain, their leg would be just as broken.
Nope that is not true, the placebo can be objective and often is. For example when a naturopath gives a person a homeopathic remedy for asthma and the patient is then able to play tennis without the same attacks prior to the remedy, it is objective. If you understood placebo you would understand it has nothing to do with sugar pills.

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I would suggest that those clients were likely never allergic to the foods they're able to eat; you say that you do your energy treatment, then prescribe a healthy diet, yes? Perhaps a healthy diet is the real "energy" at work here.
Well I would suggest they could come home from the hospital just after sever anaphylactic shock from dining on a casserole that had a touch of crab in it and then see me and in two weeks turn around and eat the same casserole or take a person who was stung by a bee and had to shoot up with epinephrine to stay alive one day and two weeks later be stung again with nothing but a red spot to show for it. It seem so me you have no idea what you are talking about.

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A good friend of mine used to have severe reactions to shellfish, but after losing a lot of weight and getting healthy by way of diet and exercise, he was able to eat shellfish without issue. This isn't reflective of getting rid of an allergy, and in any case, he got healthy by purely conventional means, which seems to go in the face of what you're suggesting with your energy healing.
Come on now, you know as well as anyone that a person can randomly go from severe allergies to no allergies or the opposite, even without a change in lifestyle. This is because the body can repair the autoimmune system just as it can have an autoimmune crash. And this fact complements what I am saying to the TEE. I am saying that any person can correct his or her autoimmune, just like your friend, the difference between your friend and my clients; it is a completely controlled and confirmed correction. There is not one single allergy that cannot be cured in less than two weeks. Also there is not a more conventional means than True Cures.

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Also, you seem to need to meet a couple scientists; do you know any? There are bad apples, sure (as there are in EVERY field) but the VAST majority of them are in it because they want to be a force for good in the world.
I met one in Hood River OR two weeks ago. He was 81 years old and I was working with his wife. He was mostly just a bystander until he saw the huge difference in his wife and the questions poured out. In 14 years, neither science, medicine nor the media has given me the time of day. I've tried; the only explanation I come up with is they do not want cures getting in the way of profit. 7.4 billion dollars was recently donated to the University of Florida for herpes research. UorF knows my claims but they have not even spent a dime of that 4.7 billion on a phone call to me. As it is, I am consistently helping people eliminate all herpes outbreaks by helping them eliminate the virus. All that is left now is to see how long it takes for the body to stop producing antibodies. I have been working excessively with HSV for 5 months now and I have one client testing negative with the IgG test who's last IgG was very high. I have another one who just tested 1.22 on IgG. She will test again and soon will be negative for number two. There will be a pattern as the other 70 or 80 people start testing. I only tell you this because the UofF knows about it and they are not contacting me and they won't. A cure for herpes ends the free cash flow.



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Yes, I know there is, and I know what it is. You may well have convinced yourself you cure people, but the bottom line has to do with the bottom line; you're going to probably get more people to pay you if you sell your woo as True Cures, rather than "Sometimes Helpful," or something similar.
You don't give people enough credit. You think everyone is brainwashed and think they cannot cure a disease and I will agree most are just like you and can’t see past the Television commercial that says there is no cure for herpes but for a whole lot of money we will sell you some Valtrex. My clients are not brainwashed completely and it does not matter what I convince myself of, it only matters what those who see me are convinced of by what they experience. Either they have big nasty blisters all over their genitalia and test positive for HSV or they don't. I thought it was OBVIOUS I promote True Cures as being 100% effective, not "Sometimes Helpful". The beauty of it is I do not have to prove anything to you or a corrupt field of science; I only have to prove True Cures to those who want to cure themselves, and it feels good to be good.

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How exactly did you come by this staggering wealth of knowledge, which has apparently eluded the directed efforts of millions of people?
Millions of people are either greedy or overworked brainwashed consumers. The greedy are aware of cures but too greedy to market them, the consumers work to hard to find the time to think for themselves and rely solely on the greedy to guide their health decisions. What does that say about me? I'm not greedy and I made time and stopped overworking myself and recognized the role greed plays in suffering and started searching for the truth. That is what I did. I figured it out mostly on my own because that is what I put my energy and efforts towards. If you have the time to search for the truth, in time you to will be cured of all your diseases because you have this forum at your finger tips and you now know. Others are not as lucky as you.

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You don't win, incidentally, by spouting gibberish of staggering ego and adding "I win" at the end.
Oh yeah, I've won. I'm disease free and you are not.

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Sir, I've no need of trying to make you look silly, you're doing a bang-up job of that all by yourself.
If my website was posted here I would have e-mails from people reading this. For those of you reading this and enjoying the truth you can contact me through the forum here. Of course there might not be anyone else reading this in which case it has been fun to say the least. I will copy and paste this discussion where there are people reading and I will get endless e-mails.

My website is available through my profile.

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I'd love to learn about you, but so far as I can tell, all you've done is say you're awesome with no references.
Not true, it is more like I have said you and anyone looking for a cure are awesome if you can get out of your own way think for yourself for a start. I have made reference to my website which you could post for me. I think we have established that you will not learn about cures through science, medicine or media so what reference are you looking for. My site has testimonials of real people with full names and towns so you can give them a call. Tell the good people here why you won’t post my websites.

He cannot post my website because he knows those who read it will contact me and he cannot take the risk that you can actually cure yourself. This leaves it up to someone else to post it. Anyone?

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Is that a threat?

I seriously doubt that anyone would suggest that I'm working for you in any capacity; I have significantly higher standards than that, and you've yet to knock a single one of "em" down.

Why would I post your website? I should have to do all of the legwork in helping you spread and then discredit your message? That sounds like a great deal.
How could it be a threat? You are diseased and will die from it unless you find true cures. But don't sell yourself so short. Sure you are nasty with disease but you are a person. And people can change. Whether you like it or not, you are promoting True Cures. If this was on the CureZone, I would have hundreds of e-mails right now. I use to post on the CureZone but they ban people who discuss cures that do not require the use of their sponsors gimmicks and snake oil.
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I agree that energy healing can be effective - I am a big believer in it. But, I don't buy into the notion that one person has the complete secret and can cure everyone. The whole notion of "True Cures" that can cure everything seems like nothing more then a marketing gimmick. Sorry to doubt you, at least the claim that you are the only one that can truly heal, but I have seen too many people in my time who have healed and I have also seen a like of snake oil guys come down the road as well. Not sure what it is that you do, and you may in fact be able to help some people, but I don't buy the whole messiah aspect of it. Just slick salesman talk if you ask me.
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True Cures, after going briefly through your site I could not understand what is it that you actually do. Where the energetic aspect of healing?

I mostly saw that you don't allow using anti-perspirant and deodorants (why?) and sometimes some food aspects.

How do you actually do your healing?

Do you base your theory on any existing energetic body paradigm (like Chinese meridian system or the chakra system)?

Did you ever try to teach it to other people or only you can heal this way?
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