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  • Who are the leading scientists and institutions running parapsychology research?

    I wanted to know, who are the current leading (and not leading) scientists and institutions carrying scientific research of parapsychology?

    I'll start with the obvious two:
    Dr. Dean Radin of Institute of Noetic Sciences
    Dr. Rupert Sheldrake

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    leading researchers

    DOPS: Bruce Greyson, Edward F Kelly, Emily Williams Kelly
    Stephen Braude

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    • #3
      If the recent Parapsychological Association convention is any indication of progress in the field, I would be looking toward the University of Northampton for the latest developments. In particular, Dr. Chris Roe has been doing and supervising massive amounts of research there.

      Also, a new lab has opened at Lund University, called the Center for Research on Consciousness and Anomalous Psychology. Dr. Etzel Cardena presented some of their current research, and I say it appears to be quite promising.

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        • #6
          Also note there is an important diference between 'parapsychology' and 'psychical research'. The leading researchers in one area are seldom the leading researchers in the other.

          Parapsychology is lab based research, a few parapsychologists (rarely) venture outside the lab to check out pararnormal claims. In contrast psychical research is seldom inside the lab environment, following and testing people's claims on location.

          As a result, parapsychology methodology assumes psi ablities are under personal control or unconscious mind control and have found weak on average effects to support this concept. In contrast psychical research often encounters people who witness strong paranormal phenomena, they claim no control over psi. Witnesses mostly attribute the effects to spirits of the dead, poltergeists, residual energies, etc.

          It is important to recognise that from this different emphasis upon research that parapsychologists has to follow the hypothesis that psi is a brain function. The psychical researchers aren't to the same degree and many view the mind as not the same as brain.

          Of course there also those in both areas who doubt the existence of psi, who for some reason tend to get the better media attention.

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          • #7
            going about it the wrong way

            Apolgies for not actually addressing the question but I would like to make a point. The research is all back to front. Psychics themselves should be looking to do their own research with scienctific method in the background - scientists are always testing each others' work and moving forward - why aren't we doing this with psychics vs psychics in a healthy, all for the best way. This from the platform of accepting that psychic ability is a fact - it's time those who have psychic ability stopped looking for the approval of the scientific community and become a voice to be reckoned with not individual voices lamenting that they are misunderstood. So to the point - does anybody know of any research of this kind? Thanks.

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            • #8
              Originally posted by Open Mind View Post
              It is important to recognise that from this different emphasis upon research that parapsychologists has to follow the hypothesis that psi is a brain function.
              Actually, this is not my experience. I think that generally the attitude among parapsychologists is that laboratory psi is a function of incarnate minds that appears to interact with things that appear to be brain function. There is no longer the strong us/them attitude about parapsychology vs psychical research, with parapsychologists accepting (and sometimes participating) apparent disincarnate paranormal phenomena as part of the mystery.

              "Incarnate minds" does not imply strict materialism and I think from hallway conversations that most parapsychologists lean philosophically to the dualist side. They try to keep these philosophical beliefs (either way) out of the conduct of the experiment, though sometimes you can see it in the discussion sections of some of the papers.

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              • #9
                Originally posted by desdemona freeman View Post
                ...
                Psychics themselves should be looking to do their own research with scienctific method in the background - scientists are always testing each others' work and moving forward - why aren't we doing this with psychics vs psychics in a healthy, all for the best way. This from the platform of accepting that psychic ability is a fact - it's time those who have psychic ability stopped looking for the approval of the scientific community and become a voice to be reckoned with not individual voices lamenting that they are misunderstood.
                ...
                I agree with you 100%. I hope you are considering doing research yourself in addition to reading about and encouraging others.

                I expressed related views in this thread:

                http://forum.mind-energy.net/scienti...f.html#post782
                http://forum.mind-energy.net/scienti...f.html#post804
                http://forum.mind-energy.net/scienti...f.html#post805

                One of my pet peeves about Spiritualism is that there has not been much innovation. I've been in mediumship classes and I've found the teachers frustratingly inflexible about trying new things. In the last 150 years there have been huge advances in communications, medicine, transportation, but not in spirit communication or spiritual healing. Any innovations like evp and itc have come from outsiders.

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Topher Cooper View Post
                  Actually, this is not my experience. I think that generally the attitude among parapsychologists is that laboratory psi is a function of incarnate minds that appears to interact with things that appear to be brain function.
                  Why do parapsychologists prefer 'incarnate minds' are causing psi. Why couldn't discarnate minds be the real cause of lab psi? Might explain the erratic, weak on average results?

                  "Incarnate minds" does not imply strict materialism and I think from hallway conversations that most parapsychologists lean philosophically to the dualist side. They try to keep these philosophical beliefs (either way) out of the conduct of the experiment
                  Why don't they simply test it in labs? For example one experimental group could ask for the assistance of invisible discarnate intelligences and the other group could focus on trying to use their own personal mental powers ......lets see what groups does best.

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by desdemona freeman View Post
                    Apolgies for not actually addressing the question but I would like to make a point. The research is all back to front. Psychics themselves should be looking to do their own research with scienctific method in the background - scientists are always testing each others' work and moving forward - why aren't we doing this with psychics vs psychics in a healthy, all for the best way. This from the platform of accepting that psychic ability is a fact - it's time those who have psychic ability stopped looking for the approval of the scientific community and become a voice to be reckoned with not individual voices lamenting that they are misunderstood. So to the point - does anybody know of any research of this kind? Thanks.
                    Desdemona, as a psychic, what is the difference *to you* between a psychic and a medium? Do you have personal psychic abilities or are these discarnate intelligences helping you? How can you tell which is which? For example can you personally remote view or is some discarnate 'guide' putting images in your mind?

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Open Mind View Post
                      Why do parapsychologists prefer 'incarnate minds' are causing psi. Why couldn't discarnate minds be the real cause of lab psi? Might explain the erratic, weak on average results?
                      There are a number of answers to this -- although they are all essentially the same answer.

                      The first: For the same reason that we do not assume that that disincarnate minds are responsible for vision or hearing.

                      The second: Because cause is not the issue -- the term I used was function and this would still be a function of incarnate minds. The disincarnate minds are the mechanism. We conduct experiments on the physical, observable system that exemplifies a phenomena and deduce from this the properties of the non-observable mechanisms behind the phenomena, whether those mechanisms are some kind of field, an entirely new kind of quantum entaglement, or disincarnate minds of unknown and probably almost unknowable motivations, abilities, cognitive capacities and emotions.

                      The third: Because it is a monumentally non-fruitful hypothesis to pursue experimentally at this time even if ultimately it is the correct hypothesis. We are already trying to work through the immense complexity of incarnate human psychology/physiology and we can make a few weak stabs at experiments based on field or quantum mechanical hypotheses. But trying to do meaningful experiments through the thick distorting medium of human psychology to try to get some understanding of an almost entirely unconstrained hypothesis many orders of magnitude more complex than that at this time would be like trying to deduce the unified field theory when our only experimental apparatus was a piece of amber, a piece of dry leaf, and a scrap of lambswool.

                      The fourth: Because it doesn't really answer anything. The hypothesized disincarnate minds are interacting with the physical universe. Either that interaction is lawful or it is not. In the latter case it is a supernatural phenomenon, beyond all scientific (and ultimately human) understanding and the disincarnate minds are essentially those of capricious, omnipotent gods. If it is lawful than it is those laws of interaction that can meaningfully be studied and are what should be considered to be "psi".

                      Originally posted by Open Mind View Post
                      Why don't they simply test it in labs? For example one experimental group could ask for the assistance of invisible discarnate intelligences and the other group could focus on trying to use their own personal mental powers ......lets see what groups does best.
                      An experiment designed to decide between two alternative hypotheses needs to have an expectation of a different outcome for the two hypotheses. The disincarnate mind hypothesis predicts that there might be some difference in the two conditions (depending on how the disincarnate minds are able and inclined to respond to such a request), with some intuitive higher liklihood of a stronger positive result in the "request" condition. The non-disincarnate mind hypothesis predicts that there might be some difference in the two conditions (depending on how the incarnate minds involved feel about asking for external help/displacing personal responsibility) with some intuitive higher liklihood of a stronger positive result in the "request" condition.
                      Last edited by Topher Cooper; October 6th, 2007, 12:58 PM.

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                      • #13
                        thanks for that glad to hear there are like minded people out there - mmmm I have been intending to convene a largish group of psychics - get them to tune in all at the same time and see what kinds of consensus events we have - but there's no methodology. I might see whether the college for Psychic Studies in London does anything. Shall let you know.

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by Open Mind View Post
                          Desdemona, as a psychic, what is the difference *to you* between a psychic and a medium? Do you have personal psychic abilities or are these discarnate intelligences helping you? How can you tell which is which? For example can you personally remote view or is some discarnate 'guide' putting images in your mind?

                          I'll chip in my two cents...

                          A medium is someone who can communicate with spirits or who in some way makes it possible for spirits to interact with the physical world.

                          A psychic is someone who has ESP, for example, who is precognitive, can do psychometry, or has other "psychic" powers possibly including mediumship. I have also often wondered if people who are psychic but not doing mediumship are still enabled by spirits helping them.

                          To make things easier for me to write occasionally I use the term "psychic" to exclude mediumship, I think you'll be able to tell from the context what I mean.

                          Some mediums say that when they give a reading some of the psychic information is from spirits and some (such as career advice and the like) is from their own power and they know which is which.

                          In my experience, when I have a psychic perceptions, I never feel able to say "this is not coming from a spirit". Maybe I am not sensitive enough to have purely psychic perceptions or I am not sensitive enough to tell the difference, or maybe I am biased. I've been brainwashed by society to disbelieve in psychic abilities (really!) so I assume any psychic perceptions are caused by spirits acting on me and not through my own power.

                          Once I was lying in bed half awake and saw a person in my mind's eye and I somehow knew things about him and got a philosophical message at the same time. Later that day in a mediumship class, I started to give a reading to one of my classmates, and I saw the same person in my mind's eye. My classmate recognized the spirit, from my description, as a relative and said the message was characteristic of him. Another time I was lying in bed half awake and I saw a cat that was mostly white with a few small splotches of color. This is not a very common color scheme for a cat. Later that day an acquaintance started showing me pictures of her nine cats. I took a chance and asked her which one is mostly white with a few splotches of color. She showed me the picture but it took her a while to figure out that she had never told me about this cat. In the first instance it seems likely that the spirit I saw was communicating with me but in both cases I assume it was spirits influencing me.

                          I have a lot of the strange coincidences happen to me and I never notice anything unusual until after it happens. This makes me think I am being influenced by spirits rather than being psychic. If I was psychic I think I should understand what was going as it was happening rather than seeing it as unusual after the fact.

                          For example...

                          I was in the grocery store and was going to get a can of frozen juice. For some reason I walked down the wrong side of the isle with the two rows of low freezers in the middle. I never made this mistake before and it is a very unlikely mistake for me. I'm somewhat cumpulsive about efficiency in the grocery store. I have pocket pc with a spread sheet I use to take inventory at home and then sort it by where everything is located in the store so I only have to make one pass through aisles. When I realized my mistake I continued walking all the way around the end and over to the other side to get to the frozen juice. When I got there, the juice wasn't where I expected it. I had a sneaking susupcion that they must be on the "wrong" side, the side I first went down and sure enough they were. Was it psychic or mediumship? I don't know. I assume it was mediumship.

                          Another time I went shopping for a certain item. My policy is to always go to walmart first since if they have it, it is most likely cheapest and I don't have to look elsewhere. However, I mised the turn. I continued driving and figured out how to get there by another route. I missed the turn for that route too. I finally ended up near some other stores. Having missed two turns, I was suspicious that something unusual was going on but I told my guides: "I'm sorry, I can't really rely on this because it might be an accidental coincidence." To make a long story short, I went back to walmart but ended up getting what I was looking for at one of the other stores. So was this psychic? Maybe. I hardly ever miss a turn like that let alone two. If I was psychic wouldn't I know I wouldn't find it at walmart instead of accidentally missing a turn? I assume it was mediumship.

                          There some are cases when I have psychic perceptions and I feel very strongly that they are coming from a spirit. In general this is when I am doing or practicing mediumship and especially when the perceptions are very strong. I often think visually but when a very clear and strong visual image appears in my minds eye in response to a mental question I pose to a spirit, it seems obvious that it is coming from the spirit. Also, my sense that the perceptions are caused by spirits are especially strong when I smell something psychically or when a words seem to be put in my mouth and also in cases when it appears I am being influenced for a purpose. I have recounted some of these experiences here:
                          http://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/dark_side

                          Also, there are instance where I feel the presence of a spirit while I am communicating with one. It's analogous to the way you have a mental map of your environment and you know someone is behind you even if you don't look at them if they are moving around doing things making noise - I sometimes sense the presence of a spirit in a similar way. Other times I have felt as if they put their arm around my shoulder or place their hands on my head.

                          I don't claim that my perceptions prove these perceptions come from spirits I only say that is how it seems to me. Part of my reasoning is that while I am driving around in circles or thrashing about in the grocery store I don't have any idea why until I see the purpose. I assume that if I was psychic I would percieve the situation and know that I wouldn't find what I wanted at walmart or that the juice was moved rather than find out afterwards. This is one of the reasons I started studying mediumship. I felt like I was being influenced by spirits and I wanted them to talk to me about it so I would know what was going on.
                          Last edited by anonymous; October 17th, 2009, 01:14 PM.

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                          • #15
                            That's a really interesting question and it was good to read anonymous' answer first. I am not a medium I do not communicate with people in spirit nor do they try to contact me. On that basis I am only psychic. I think psychic ability is a tool or a sense just like touch. Some people have a talent for using this tool in the same way as some people have a talent for not only speaking but singing beautifully. Therefore, I think that we are all receiving psychic information all the time and it influences our decisions - we can still make decisions that go against the psychic input due to contextual influences, genetic predispositions etc etc. In the same way we might touch a hot surface even though we know it to be hot.

                            The reason Anonymous finds himself/herself doing strange things is because, in my experience intuition influences decision making both consciously and in the case of Anonymous unconsciously. Why does this happen - it seems to be something to do with not simply a survival instinct but more so an instinct for efficaciousness. The more you follow the intuition the more intuition you have - practice makes perfect. In this there is no middle person or guide etc.

                            Guides, angels and all that sort of stuff is a bit different. Yes communication happens in this way and as Anonymous points out you tend to know the difference but my jury is still out on the exact nature of this type of communication - don't get me wrong it happens but to what extent there is an influence from the translator I haven't yet worked out - language is so pitifully inept when it comes to translating the experience into words that I do wonder.

                            Finally I think our attitude and intention has a part to play. Psychic sense is not a one way street - we don't just receive. It intereacts with whatever we are sensing. I think this gets us into conversation about Akashic fields and multi dimensions.

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