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Old 02-26-2008, 11:52 PM
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Default Organic food not so healthy’

Debunking the myth of superiority of organic food over ordinary one, leading scientists have claimed that the former is not healthier than the latter.
There was little evidence that an organic diet provides greater nutritional benefits or that non-organic crops grown using pesticides and chemical fertilisers are more harmful than their organic competitors, the scientists claimed. As health is the major motivational factor behind purchase of organic products, producers point to research showing that organic food contains higher levels of nutrients, but scientists claim there were just as many studies that have found no added benefits.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:37 AM
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It would be interesting to see the source of this information.
I'm sure you've taken this from somewhere.
The original research publication would be great.
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Old 03-19-2008, 04:18 PM
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I would think it isn't so much the added benefits as the detracted consequences of growing food in chemicals. Indeed this information is discredible without a source of decent reputation.
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Old 03-19-2008, 05:17 PM
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Actually, Allen provided me with the link to the source:
DNA - Health Line - ‘Organic food not so healthy’ - Daily News & Analysis
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Actually, Allen provided me with the link to the source:
DNA - Health Line - ‘Organic food not so healthy’ - Daily News & Analysis


The diet of animals can affect their nutritional value. That is how they get the omega-3 rich eggs, they feed the chickens foods with lots of omega-3 fats. People have been affected by hormones fed to cattle. Also, overuse of antibiotics given to cattle result in resisitant micro organisms.

But, I thought the main attraction to organic foods was to avoid residues of insecticides and fertilizers.

However, there are also risks with organic food: manure fertilizer has caused food poisoning.

Also, chemical fertilizers and insecticides have increased crop yields to the benefit of the world's poor. GM foods will have the same effect.

All food crops and livestock have been bred over the centuries for desired traits and higher yield. Modern genetics is just more efficient. In that sense, there is no such thing a food that is not gentically modified.

I'm not sure why people don't like GM foods. I think they are afraid there might be a problem that is not currently known. Okay, people can believe that, and other people can believe that such thinking is just supersitious fear of change. I have a master's degree in molecular biology and I'm not afraid of GM foods. I think that is because I understand the technology, or maybe it just gives me a superstitious bias in favor.

People can have different opinions which is why I think it's fine to let the market decide availablity and price of organic foods. The problem is educating consumers. As usual there are special interest groups, with economic incentives or other reasons for being less than interested in the truth.

Plus there is the problem of legitimate scientific controversy due to misinterpreting the results of scientific studies. Last summer my doctor told me I had high cholesterol and I tried to learn about the subject. I have to say after doing research and trying to understand what the science says I have not been able to figure out what the best diet is. I think each person has to consider their risk factors individually.

Overweight people, (but not obese people) live longer than "healthy weight people".
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/07/he...gewanted=print

Elderly people have less risk of stroke if their cholesterol is high.
Cholesterol-Stroke Relationship Puzzling - Cholesterol Information Produced by Doctors For Patients Experiencing High Cholesterol Levels

Some people get almost violent when I tell them about this one:
Best Heart Benefits From Canola and Fish Oils -- Not Olive Oil
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Olive oil may be nearly as dangerous as saturated fat in clogging arteries, according to authors of a study comparing the effects of canola, olive, and fish oils.
Do I believe these contrarian findings? I don't know what to believe.

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Old 03-31-2008, 04:07 AM
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Default nyone else know any home remedies for illnesses?

Hello there,

I know a couple home remedies such as:
tomato= for sunburn...the acids help to heal it fast vinegar-honey= for a cold...the vinegar helps to neutralize the bacteria and kill it off. Does anyone else know any home remedies for illnesses and stuff like that? if so, what are they and what do they do?
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:52 PM
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I think the fear in GM foods over that of naturally grown foods is just a perception instilled by the environmentalist and news media. They say that GM foods may cause cancer and what not, which I think is rubbish. There is no solid proof of that. These rumors are without foundation and should be put to rest until there is evidence otherwise.

It is hard nowadays to stay away from foods that have not been altered in some way, either in the growing of processing or manufacturing. I think the only way to really get "organic" foods is to grow it yourself.
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Old 06-20-2008, 12:07 AM
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Can you have experiance on it?I heard that organic food are produced based on some standards and that they are grown up without any pesticides,fertilizers etc.In recent days antioxidants are found as important substance for human nutrition.These antioxidents is rich is organic foods.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:18 AM
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Hello To All,
Good discussion's going on here. From what I've been reading and researching, I see the many issues presented here on this forum, as "need for more in depth research". by the posters. There is so much controversy on food items, and research as one mentions in a post, it becomes confusing to the ordinary lay person. I hold no degree's in any medical, or biochemistry field, but do have a modicum of common sense. All "living" humans, animals, fish, fowl, plants, etc, ARE affected by "what is eaten, or drank, or absorbed into their system.
Here is one post that hits on the subject:

Talker On Health and Psychic Reality » Blog Archive » # 13 Microhormone Messengers

Have numerous posts, far to many to list here, on the insanity of what is happening in our world of food and medicine. As far as waiting for "proof" of research to validate some things as one post mentions, is part of the problem. That part of "life evolution" is a slow process, unnoticed, in the short term, so nothing conclusive is going to show up, BUT the stage IS set and certain happenings "are" appearing now. Just think on the many odd, unusual, and strange appearances the newspapers and media are talking about. Some even baffle the scientific world, leading to more confusion by the lay person. The physical and emotional aspects by what is "put into" ones body will and does, affect you. Don't wait for validation in some areas, just use "common sense" thinking. Read through the many thought provoking post subjects given here on this forum, and mix in a tad of common sense, and you will wont have to wait for scientific validation to kick in.
Will repeat, that which I firmly believe in. If you are doctoring and using prescription drugs for any condition, for longer than three or four months, without some degree of improvement showing, a change of health focus should be considered. You are not "prescription drug" deficient, you are "nutrition" deficient. Ones body is designed to self-heal and correct body malfunctions. Why interrupt that function with continued use of prescription drugs!
Browse the listed index pages below and see what I am saying on the various topics regards health and emotional factors, and you will lessen the confusion.
The final choice and decision should be yours, its your health being compromised by the greed and lack of integrity in many companies.
What I cover and post on and about, is not the final answer to anything. It is food for thought, on what may help in many situations.
Be Well

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