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Old 05-08-2008, 10:42 AM
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Default Skeptic challenged tantrik to kill him live on TV (Blog)

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Old 08-27-2008, 06:48 PM
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Default Just laugh in their face-no one controls you unless you let them!

Its not that tantrik had no power but that sanal had no belief in it and completely rejected it the entire time. If sanal believed in it and believed in the fact that he was going to die in three minutes then I think that the two of them could have done it. Maybe. But the fact is, you can do all the energy work you want on a person but they are the ones with the power to accept it or reject it. If someone says a prayer, waves all the right patterns and puts all their thoughts into harming you and you just laugh in their face like sanal did, you dont hold onto it so that energy cannot touch you. How do you guys feel about this line of thought and God or the Devil? Can God or Devil or Angel or any being with power do something to you even if you dont accept their energy? I mean, even for those who dont believe in devil or god, hypothetically- can they if you dont wish it? my vote is no they cant. you have to accept it on some level for it to happen and if the devil came to me now and said I will kill you in 3 min. I would say lets go on live tv cuz it aint happenin' and I dont think everyone would believe me. What do you guys think?
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Old 08-30-2008, 02:44 PM
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Default The "just laugh" part is right.

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[...] How do you guys feel about this line of thought [...]
I think you have a cause/effect relationship backwards.

When skeptics and psychics meet, do the psychics always fail because the skeptics don't believe in their powers? No; it's the other way: The skeptics don't believe in their powers because the psychics always fail.

James Randi is now in his 80's. Glad to see Sanal doing the good work.

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Old 09-01-2008, 11:25 PM
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Default why not?

interesting thought. how can you prove that they dont fail because the skeptic is not open to experiencing it?
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:51 AM
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interesting thought. how can you prove that they dont fail because the skeptic is not open to experiencing it?
In most such challenges, the skeptic is not a subject of the experiment. James Randi has approved tests in which he will not even know when it happens. On mind-energy.net I've discussed cryptographic controls that, for some psi demonstrations, would not require anyone skeptical on the scene.

Note that that empirical principals do not lend themselves to certain "proof". Rather, science demands they be disprovable in case they are wrong. The principle is often called "falsifiability". Falsifiability - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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