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Old 02-02-2010, 07:01 PM
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I can't imagine why there would be specific physical factors that would alert the cat as to someone dying in 24 hours vs 48 hours.
Yes, but your imagination is not evidence. How about body temperature? From Wikipedia:
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One of the first cases involved a patient who had a blood clot in her leg that was ice cold at the time. Oscar wrapped his body around her leg and stayed until the woman died.
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:57 PM
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Yes, but your imagination is not evidence. How about body temperature? From Wikipedia:




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Some people hang on the verge of death for extended periods where no one can figure out what's keeping them alive while others seem fairly lively then die quickly. It would be interesting to see charts on the conditions of all the people the cat predicted. It's pretty much all speculation with limited data.
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:21 AM
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Well OK, but this phenomenon was observed with about 50 patients, who presumably died from a range of causes!

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Old 02-03-2010, 07:51 AM
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Well OK, but this phenomenon was observed with about 50 patients, who presumably died from a range of causes!

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Pitlik (2009) noted that the patients that Oscar slept beside all succumbed to infection by carbapenem-resistant Klebsiella pneumoniae, he suggested that Oscar was able smell the scent of this bacterial infection, he was thus aware that the patients were terminally ill and would not bother him by trying to pet him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_(cat)

ETA: FWIW The WP hive mind sources the statement to here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19344272

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Old 02-03-2010, 09:45 AM
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Miguel,

That link that you posted did not work - probably truncated - can you post it again please.

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Well OK, but this phenomenon was observed with about 50 patients, who presumably died from a range of causes!
But what are the common body and external changes as a person is dying? Temperature? Level of movement? Odors? Other people paying attention?

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But what are the common body and external changes as a person is dying? Temperature? Level of movement? Odors? Other people paying attention?

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The body/spirit connection is weakening, and predeceased friends and relatives that come near the soon-to-be-departed arrive. The cat is sensitive to this in a way the other cats are not, and shows this by sitting near these patients. Or maybe it is asked to go to these patients on a clairvoyant level.

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The body/spirit connection is weakening, and predeceased friends and relatives that come near the soon-to-be-departed arrive. The cat is sensitive to this in a way the other cats are not, and shows this by sitting near these patients. Or maybe it is asked to go to these patients on a clairvoyant level.
I note that you did not answer my questions.

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