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Old 09-20-2010, 04:07 AM
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I've read Stevenson's paper, not terribly impressed. We should do a thread on his studies of that medium.
But you're a skeptic and that's pretty much a given. In my experience skeptics are never impressed by any evidence suggesting survival.
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In my experience skeptics are never impressed by any weak evidence suggesting survival.
Ian,

I cleared that up just a tiny bit for you!
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Old 09-20-2010, 05:59 AM
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But you're a skeptic and that's pretty much a given. In my experience skeptics are never impressed by any evidence suggesting survival.
This guy strikes me as a pretty sophisticated manipulator. Did you read the studies Stvenson did with him in a medium experiment? He comes up with full names, right? But he apparenty throws out a bunch of names per reading. The thing is, he says that he can't always get something on the sitter's parents, for example, but will key into, say grandparents. In the study, to get an effect,they went and interviewed the sitter's families, too. They got an effect size by someone in the family, or even a brother in -law, had some sort of connection to the name.

He basically plays six degrees of separation with these families, but by using local names you don't usually need to get to six! From what I saw on some report (can't remember the link) he is thought to have a photographic memory. Further, he dealt with particularly violent deaths which are more notirious. I think Stevenson's follow up study, with tighter controls, showed no effect at all.

Then Renki one is a bit more elaborate, but carried out over many months. Yes, I do smell a rat with this guy!
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Nemo85 did you read this ?
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:14 AM
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Nemo85 did you read this ?
The paper by Haraldsson & Stevensson? No, I have not read it.

I am reading about non-linear regression today.

If I remember to buy paper I read it tomorrow.

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Old 09-20-2010, 07:26 AM
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The paper by Haraldsson & Stevensson? No, I have not read it.

I am reading about non-linear regression today.

If I remember to buy paper I read it tomorrow.
You misunderstood me. I wasn't asking if you read some paper. I was looking to see if you happened to look at this post just to see if you would notice I posted here. I'll post where I think topics will be noticed.
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:50 PM
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You misunderstood me. I wasn't asking if you read some paper. I was looking to see if you happened to look at this post just to see if you would notice I posted here. I'll post where I think topics will be noticed.
Do not worry, people seem to notice your posts. If your posts do not get the attention you feel that they
deserve then James Randi Educational Foundation is always available
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:32 PM
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Do not worry, people seem to notice your posts. If your posts do not get the attention you feel that they
deserve then James Randi Educational Foundation is always available


Sometimes I just want to hug you, Nemo.
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:00 PM
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Sometimes I just want to hug you, Nemo.
You want to hug a innocent dolt like me (http://forum.mind-energy.net/skeptik...html#post33623) that writes "veiled ad homs" (http://forum.mind-energy.net/skeptik...html#post33672) and sends "subtle" messages (http://forum.mind-energy.net/skeptik...html#post31377)? I almost made a joke about James Randi acting as a dwarf named Baldie in a upcoming movie but decided that Really could have regarded that as a veiled ad hom. I will try to behave myself in the future, but given my insignificant age and education, only 4+ years at univ. and underdeveloped social skills (http://forum.mind-energy.net/skeptik...ills#post31487) do not get your hopes up .

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Old 09-21-2010, 08:51 PM
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You want to hug a innocent dolt like me (http://forum.mind-energy.net/skeptik...html#post33623) that writes "veiled ad homs" (http://forum.mind-energy.net/skeptik...html#post33672) and sends "subtle" messages (http://forum.mind-energy.net/skeptik...html#post31377)? I almost made a joke about James Randi acting as a dwarf named Baldie in a upcoming movie but decided that Really could have regarded that as a veiled ad hom. I will try to behave myself in the future, but given my insignificant age and education, only 4+ years at univ. and underdeveloped social skills (http://forum.mind-energy.net/skeptik...ills#post31487) do not get your hopes up .
Actually, yes!
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