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Old 04-21-2012, 12:58 PM
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E-cat, Defkalion, Nichenergy, JET Energy and Berkeley company called Brillouin have all claimed real world or approaching real world level cold-fusion technologies. Brillouin is saying it understands the process and can run it smooth with out spikes for long periods, adjust levels and turn it on or off at will.

From this interview: Brillouin: "Understanding How LENR Works Will Enable Us to Be First"

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Though they are latecomers in the public eye, they are not newcomers to the science; and they think they have an advantage that will make all the difference to enable them to actually make it to market first in a major way: They understand how it works, thanks to the work and inventive intuition of Robert. And because they understand it, they can optimize the design more rapidly, complete with the ability to turn on/off the reaction, govern it up and down, and run it in steady state -- capabilities that none of the competitors have yet had to the same extent.

For example, when I was watching the data emerge from the Defkalion set-up, when I was in Greece (story), I was expecting to see a steady curve, but instead what I saw were intermittent spikes from the nuclear events. The Brillouin curve would be steady.

Speaking metaphorically of the competitors' technology, Robert said: "They have a carburetor, but we know how the spark plug works (and the glow plug)."

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They have had two significant independent validations of their scientific model and claims. One of those was by Los Alamos National Laboratories. The other was by Dr. Michael McKubre of Standford Research International (SRI), who subsequently joined their board of advisors. McKubre was especially impressed by the consistency of the results. This was the first time (in the LENR experimental arena) that he was able to repeat something every time, without exception.

McKubre is best known as the primary professional interviewed in the 60 Minutes piece on cold fusion that aired April 19, 2009 -- exactly three years ago today.

SRI is a highly respected laboratory involved in cutting-edge technology.
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So, an interview with a board member and the CEO is enough. SRI's site says nothing nor their facebook page. No major media picks it up. Yeah, I will go with still trying to bring in investor money. I even noticed they said the Brillouin curve should be smooth - as if they have not seen what it looks like.

I won't hold my breath.
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So, an interview with a board member and the CEO is enough. SRI's site says nothing nor their facebook page. No major media picks it up. Yeah, I will go with still trying to bring in investor money. I even noticed they said the Brillouin curve should be smooth - as if they have not seen what it looks like.

I won't hold my breath.
Remember there is a lot of politics in this subject - scientific institutions are reluctant to show support for anything that even might get scoffed at. I wouldn't want to bet either way at this point.

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Oh my my, is Cold Fusion now becoming a High School table top experiment?

Cold Fusion in Italian High School


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A new and very interesting report is coming again out of Italy. The Repubblica Roma web site is reporting about a project carried out by teachers and students at the Leopoldo Pirelli industrial high school in Rome in which students have built cold fusion cells which according to one of the instructors involved have achieved excess heat levels of 400 per cent. A slide show of the devices can be seen here.

Following this report, one of the instructors involved with the project, Ugo Abundo, emailed Daniele Passerini of the 22passi blog and provided more information. Abundo said that the cells used ‘free nanopowders’ in the cathode which they have patented. Abundo says that in a few days video and technical details will be made available (presumably online). It also appears that Passerini will be working to help publicize the project.
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Remember there is a lot of politics in this subject - scientific institutions are reluctant to show support for anything that even might get scoffed at. I wouldn't want to bet either way at this point.

David
Yeah, but if the group they are claiming to have confirmed it is not owning up to it ...
This is something I would feel comfortable betting against. Even with some odds.

I would love to be wrong - it could/would change energy production greatly. I still say this with caution since we have no idea of what this could really mean - it is not like they have any real data on full operation to know what things would be like or what the safety issues would be.

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I would love to be wrong - it could/would change energy production greatly.
Not to mention that it would prevent peak helium
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Not to mention that it would prevent peak helium

You would need to liberate an awful lot of energy to make a dent in helium shortages!

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You would need to liberate an awful lot of energy to make a dent in helium shortages!

David
Your right , of course , but if LENR would be true we soon would come to use nothing else , Right ?
We also would start to use a lot more energy if it was cheaper.
we would likely use electricity for transport , maybe even machinery to reverse carbon levels.
Then it also would depend on the efficiency of the process whether the amount of helium would be trivial.
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:28 PM
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Defkalion Green Technologies is hiring!
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Old 04-28-2012, 04:00 AM
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maybe even machinery to reverse carbon levels.
With a flat global temperature curve (last 15 years!) and suggestions that the sun may have entered a cold phase, I very much doubt if we will care a damn about CO2 levels!

My worry might be if it were possible to release too much energy in a burst (i.e. make some sort of bomb).

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