03-18-2012, 12:03 AM
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This research does not provide any evidence for a materialist explanation of NDEs.
The investigator has prior beliefs that OBEs are not objective, and the author of the article may disbelieve psi in general. The article creates the implication that the experiences are lucid dreams by citing prior research in lucid dreams but the experiment about contact with the dead involve OBEs. Skeptical readers easily accept the premise that the explanation for NDEs is materialist. But also believers are also led along the same path of deception. In fact the research on contacting the dead during an OBE provides no evidence of a material explanation for NDEs. It is equally valid to interpret the results as supporting Survival.
No one understands what consciousness is. When separate from the body, or during altered states of brain function, the mind may act in ways we do not understand. Most spiritual traditions I am aware of say that outside the body, reality is subjective, thoughts create reality. Lucid dreams may be dreams of the spirit rather than dreams of the physical brain.
In contrast to lucid dreams where a person consciously controls the dream, during the NDE the subjects do not look for a tunnel, a white light, or spirts of the dead. During NDE's the subjects are mostly passive as these phenomena occur.
So, not only does the reasearch in the article make misleading assumptions about the experiments it discusses by implying the results are dreams, it also makes unwarranted assumptions about what lucid dreams are, and makes a false comparison between lucid dreams and NDE's.
This is a typical skeptical hit job. Dont fall for it.
Last edited by anonymous; 03-18-2012 at 12:10 AM.