Has this promising technology been overlooked, or was it actively suppressed?

[mszlazak]

Has this promising technology been overlooked, or was it actively suppressed?

Cold Fusion: Tangible Hope in an Age of Despair

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[Ian]

Originally Posted by mszlazak

Has this promising technology been overlooked, or was it actively suppressed?

Cold Fusion: Tangible Hope in an Age of Despair

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On the contrary, LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions) are being actively investigated by NASA at the Langley Research Center, and (e.g.) a NATO Colonel Engineer recently tested (and bought for an anonymous client) one of Andrea Rossi's 0.5MW E-Cat devices. There is a great deal of interest at present, and I've heard of at least a couple of pretty serious conferences having taken place on the subject over the past few months.

You've probably heard of Brian Josephson... he's interested in it too

[mszlazak]

Originally Posted by Ian

On the contrary, LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions) are being actively investigated by NASA at the Langley Research Center, and (e.g.) a NATO Colonel Engineer recently tested (and bought for an anonymous client) one of Andrea Rossi's 0.5MW E-Cat devices. There is a great deal of interest at present, and I've heard of at least a couple of pretty serious conferences having taken place on the subject over the past few months.

You've probably heard of Brian Josephson... he's interested in it too

How does this even counter the claim in the article? No one said completely stopped they said suppressed.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by mszlazak

How does this even counter the claim in the article? No one said completely stopped they said suppressed.

Yeah, sorry, it doesn't – I was just making off-the-cuff remarks. Do carry on.

[porker]

Originally Posted by mszlazak

Has this promising technology been overlooked, or was it actively suppressed?

Cold Fusion: Tangible Hope in an Age of Despair

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No it was not actiively suppressed as far as I can see. The original F&P work was catastrophically mis-managed in terms of PR protocol.

It appears that subsequent work has been carried out, with interesting results.

Thorium fission seems like a much easier short term solution to electricity generation to me.

[Johann]

Originally Posted by porker

No it was not actiively suppressed as far as I can see. The original F&P work was catastrophically mis-managed in terms of PR protocol.

F&P warned scientists not to attempt replications until they fixed their design, but, heedless of this, many were carried out - mostly negative of course. After that, the scientific community and the media stopped giving F&P a fair trial, and the door was closed against cold fusion for many years afterword. People who supported or attempted to conduct cold fusion research were almost totally ignored, and in many cases actively suppressed.

Was Cold Fusion deliberately suppressed? – Cold Fusion & LENR - Canada

Books [read the pdfs intros to some of these books]

- Johann

[David Bailey]

Originally Posted by porker

No it was not actiively suppressed as far as I can see. The original F&P work was catastrophically mis-managed in terms of PR protocol.

Wow - I think you have changed your position on this one! My guess is that places like Culham may have had a part to play (they did claim to have failed to replicate the experiment) - even the suggestion of cheap cold fusion might have hurt their income stream for the hot variety.

I guess F&P hadn't realised quite how corrupt organised science had become.

It appears that subsequent work has been carried out, with interesting results.

Thorium fission seems like a much easier short term solution to electricity generation to me.

As far as I know, only China are working on Thorium reactors - Britain and the US will just be part of the third world soon!

David

[porker]

Originally Posted by David Bailey

Wow - I think you have changed your position on this one! My guess is that places like Culham may have had a part to play (they did claim to have failed to replicate the experiment) - even the suggestion of cheap cold fusion might have hurt their income stream for the hot variety.

I guess F&P hadn't realised quite how corrupt organised science had become.


As far as I know, only China are working on Thorium reactors - Britain and the US will just be part of the third world soon!

David

Hi David, I'm not sure my position has changed so much? I do think LENR is interesting but F&P were grossly wrong in their original claims and should have known better.

Thorium is exceptionally interesting but sadly I think green sympathising politicians without a scientific bone in their body are likely to cause our colective downfall...

[mszlazak]

From the July issue of Journal of Petroleum Technology, “On the Precipice of a New Energy Source”:

In the late 1850s, the whaling industry was in a veritable boom in the town of Lahaina on the Hawaiian island of Maui. Business was great and many in the whaling industry believed that increased demand would continue for decades to come. But in 1859 oil was discovered in Titusville, Pennsylvania by Edwin Drake. The rest is history.

That was 150 years ago. A small but increasing number of people around the world believe we are on a similar course, except that this time it is the petroleum industry that might be threatened.

If proven to work, what impact would LENR have on the petroleum industry? It is difficult to say for certain, but it would undoubtedly be significant. The vast preponderance of oil is used for transportation and heating which would now be competing with LENR. While there would still be need for petroleum chemicals and other applications, collectively these end uses represent less than about 20% of each barrel. Natural gas would not fare much better; its main applications are heating and electricity. If LENR works the impact on the petroleum industry, power generation and coal industry would be enormous.

[sparky]

This thread was posted about five times "three months" ago
Italian Cold Fusion device to be sold to public in 3 months
Then there was this one
LENR Confirmed by Mainstream Scientists
And, of course, this one
NASA confirms LENR (Cold Fusion). Will JREF offer $1 million prize challenge?
Also, not forgetting, this one
Transition to Cold Fusion "Will be hell" for US & Europe?

Has anything changed since all of these?