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Old 07-12-2012, 11:26 AM
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Default Debunking Pseudo-Neuroscience

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Carol Tavris – Debunking Pseudoneuroscience


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Old 07-12-2012, 01:50 PM
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Thanks for that video - it is a wonderful dose of cold water on neuro-imaging and related science. Did you notice that she had special mention for the article that I have linked to on a number of occasions:

http://forum.mind-energy.net/local_l...&catid=11&id=4

This provides a very general but powerful argument that a great many fMRI studies are statistical/methadological flukes.

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Old 07-13-2012, 02:11 AM
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Thanks for that video - it is a wonderful dose of cold water on neuro-imaging and related science. Did you notice that she had special mention for the article that I have linked to on a number of occasions:

http://forum.mind-energy.net/local_l...&catid=11&id=4

This provides a very general but powerful argument that a great many fMRI studies are statistical/methadological flukes.

David
Thanks David.

I just checked and it looks like they took the video down!

Here is an article on her talk.

http://www.psychologicalscience.org/...d-biobunk.html

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Old 07-13-2012, 05:49 AM
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That is extraordinary - I guess I was one of only a few to watch it! That can't really be a coincidence, it has to be related to you posting the link here (at least with p<0.001 ), and it illustrates the incredibly taboo that exists towards psi within science!

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Old 07-13-2012, 10:16 AM
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That is extraordinary - I guess I was one of only a few to watch it! That can't really be a coincidence, it has to be related to you posting the link here (at least with p<0.001 ), and it illustrates the incredibly taboo that exists towards psi within science!

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Got a tip from another site, it's now here on Vimeo:

Carol Tavris - Debunking Pseudoneuroscience

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Got a tip from another site, it's now here on Vimeo:

Carol Tavris - Debunking Pseudoneuroscience

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Old 07-13-2012, 04:11 PM
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Permission denied!
Yup. Looks like someone is playing around.

Hope a copy surfaces that has public access. Does anyone know if the video is cached on one's computer and how to get at that copy?
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:09 AM
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Here is her website. It doesn't seem to have that particular video on it, but it has other material, and I guess anyone interested could contact her:

Mistakes Were Made

I think sceptics, and those who incline that way, would do well to ponder what this bit of censorship means. Carol Tavris was not discussing the paranormal, she was pointing out shortcomings in the modern obsession of finding bits of the brain that 'light up' with particular thoughts. She points out both the rather shallow - almost pointless - aspect of some of these studies, and also the fact that even the fMRI methodology is seriously flawed for statistical reasons.

For example, she pointed to one study in which participants were asked to try to 'love someone' while in the fMRI machine. This study was supposed to show that something happens in the brain when people fall in love!!!

Carol made the points:

a) Didn't we know that already?

b) Isn't the definition of love pretty vague - it can have so many forms.

She certainly seems to have her head screwed on straight.

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I think sceptics, and those who incline that way, would do well to ponder what this bit of censorship means.
Skeptics are boring. They think "copyright" just because it is the reason most videos are unavailable, rather than "censorship by the powers that be". Yawn.

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Old 07-14-2012, 05:24 PM
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Skeptics are boring. They think "copyright" just because it is the reason most videos are unavailable, rather than "censorship by the powers that be". Yawn.

Linda
Well maybe, but she put the video out in the first place, and it is just one of many scientific videos out there. We will probably never know, but my guess is that once the video was linked from a "woo woo" site, it just had to be pulled!

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