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Old 08-06-2012, 01:34 AM
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Default Radin's recent overview of unconscious psi experiments

This is an excellent overview of unconscious psi experiments:
http://www.deanradin.com/papers/Radin%20AAAS%202011.pdf
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:31 AM
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Another convincing paper by Radin.... another one for pseudoskeptics to try deny.

Here they come now ....
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:45 AM
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Another convincing paper by Radin.... another one for pseudoskeptics to try deny.

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Wasn't that a review, rather than a report on a novel experiment? What would there be to deny (which hasn't been covered already)?

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Old 08-06-2012, 08:28 AM
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Dear Linda, my precognition is working well today
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:35 AM
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What would there be to deny (which hasn't been covered already)?

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But Linda ... I don't believe i the 'it is nothing but something else' skeptical defense is a valid argument.

I am not asking you to believe everything or even to state you are completely convinced ... just admit the weight of evidence leans towards psi existing.

Drum roll .....

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Old 08-06-2012, 08:59 AM
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But Linda ... I don't believe i the 'it is nothing but something else' skeptical defense is a valid argument.
I realize that is your position. As far as I can tell, there isn't any new information in this paper to alter the situation. So I was wondering why you intimated that there was.

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Old 08-06-2012, 09:06 AM
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Linda, I only want you to admit the weight of evidence leans towards psi existing ... if you do so you get a bronze medal and some flowers

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Old 08-06-2012, 11:39 AM
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I realize that is your position. As far as I can tell, there isn't any new information in this paper to alter the situation. So I was wondering why you intimated that there was.

Linda
That is, of course, true of all scientific review papers!

Nevertheless, review papers are often useful in science because they bring together a lot of results and allow patterns emerge. One of the interesting features of these experiments, is that the effect sizes are fairly consistent, and seem to rise as the quality of the study increases (I don't know quite how that was measured objectively).

If I were a psychologist who used SCL measurements (or some of the other measurements discussed) as an experimental tool in conventional experiments, I'd be pretty worried as to what those results mean!

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Old 08-06-2012, 12:01 PM
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Dean's first book, TCU, really rocked my world and I hope he comes out with a third one that gives an up-to-date view of lab parapsychology, criticisms or pseudo-criticisms of parapsychology and the various attempts at a theory of psi.

With regard to theory, here is one paper that criticizes the QM approach to psi and QM theory in general. This may have already come up in another thread because it is directed at Dean's recent set of experiments that take a quantum view of things. Problem is that I don't know enough to assess the merits of this paper.

Quantum measurements are physical processes. Comment on "Consciousness and the double-slit interference pattern: Six experiments," By Dean Radin et al.

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Old 08-07-2012, 12:47 AM
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Dean's first book, TCU, really rocked my world and I hope he comes out with a third one that gives an up-to-date view of lab parapsychology, criticisms or pseudo-criticisms of parapsychology and the various attempts at a theory of psi.
He has written a new book, that will appear next year if everything goes according to plan. That's all I know

EDIT: btw, thanks Maaneli. I was not aware of this review.

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