77. Mark Ireland Seeks Proof of Psychic Medium Communication (Podcast)

[alextsakiris]

Guest: Mark Ireland, discusses his book Soul Shift, and how psychic medium communication with his deceased son sent him on a journey of spiritual discovery.

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[Open Mind]

Hmm..... Mark Ireland sounds very sincere ......but IMHO his father's billet reading performance looks like trickery to me ...

I should read Mark's book before saying this but I want to say it before some smart ass pseudo skeptic points it out ....Even when taped up the tiniest of gaps enables the magician to see down the side of the nose. So although the taped is covering the nose gap for all to see, when the black fabric covers are put on top, that is no longer necessarily true. All one would need is one plant in audience (not even essential) and while the audience is enchanted by the correct information, a hand seemingly innocently holding a ticket against forehead can help loosen tape enough to provide a visual gap for later readings.

Another problem is that his father's performance is too good to be psychic ability IMHO , if true he should have entered a parapsychology lab rather than TV programme.

Perhaps Mark's father (and uncle) were truly psychic to some extent .... but perhaps like some others in past there is a temptation to embellish more modest psychic abilities with more impressive tricks....there have been many magicians who believed in psychic phenomena but found it not impressive enough to use for public performance.

I think I will buy Mark's book, mostly for Mark's investigation to communicate with son.... that rings more sincere and true to me.

[sr332603]

Let me make another psychic prediction. Note that I have not yet listened to the show...

Alex will faun all over Mark Ireland. He will not question a single claim he makes, be it concerning his medium-ship or his fathers'. He will definitely not bring up the criticisms that even Open Mind was able to admit. Instead, he will accept anecdote after anecdote, quite excitedly and uncritically. In the end, he will just drive another nail into whatever journalistic "integrity" he claims to have.

Let's hope I'm wrong.

[craven]

Originally Posted by Open Mind

I should read Mark's book before saying this but I want to say it before some smart ass pseudo skeptic points it out ....

Man, that's smug. Maybe you're a closet smart ass skeptic, being that you pointed it out first?

[sr332603]

Originally Posted by Open Mind

Hmm..... Mark Ireland sounds very sincere ......but IMHO his father's billet reading performance looks like trickery to me ...

I should read Mark's book before saying this but I want to say it before some smart ass pseudo skeptic points it out ....

And what's with the "pseudo" - are you saying that the skeptics on this board are not "real" skeptics?

Open Mind, I really have to hand it to you on this one. Way to not jump at every piece of seemingly positive evidence, no matter how ridiculous and asinine, just because it fits your worldview.

If only Alex could display the same admirable stance instead of falling over himself to agree with his guests, to the point of finishing sentences for them and yelling "Yeah!" throughout...

[sr332603]

Alright, I listened to the podcast, and it turns out that my psychic prediction was correct! Alex did not ask one critical question and did not show any skepticism or doubt concerning his guest's claims. Not surprising in the least, but very disappointing nonetheless.

[CKava]

Surely that means sr332603 has now provided compelling evidence for psi. He/she predicted accurately what was going to occur and we have documentary evidence.

Some might claim that sr332603 could have been lying and may have listened to the show before hand or may have been basing his/her prediction for psi of their past experience listening to the show. However, either proposition seems much less likely than psi especialy when we consider that sr332603 specifically said they were making a psychic prediction. Inevitably skeptics won't be unwilling to heed such evidence due to their dogmatic adherence to a materialistic worldview but we all know they are simply too close minded to recognise real evidence even when it is right in front of their faces.

Am I getting the hang of this yet?

[Open Mind]

Originally Posted by sr332603

Alex will faun all over Mark Ireland. He will not question a single claim he makes

It depends on how you interpret what you hear ....for example ...

Alex said '...But the other part of that story that I found so fascinating is, that you had been exposed to all that as a kid but it seemed like as an adult that wasn’t really a big part of who you were, either spiritually or I guess, on a day-to-day basis, having any kind of connection with any psychic abilities. Fill in the blanks there for me?


When I was listening to the show I interpreted this (perhaps wrongly) as a polite way to ask Mark the question how come if your father was such an evidential medium, that you felt the need to seek proof later?


It seems die-hard skeptics in here want to rudely interrogate those claiming personal evidence?

Ironically skeptical materialists seem to react as if an afterlife claim is harmful to society and almost in the next breath claim human tendency to interpret things as an afterlife probably evolved (i.e. had evolutionary benefits) ..... I don't see Near Death Experiencers becoming a menace to society or worse off after the experience ... so why are skeptical materialists often angry towards those making afterlife claims?

[Open Mind]

Originally Posted by craven

Man, that's smug. Maybe you're a closet smart ass skeptic, being that you pointed it out first?

Some 'skeptics' (disbelievers who lack doubt) seem to be under the misconception that those who find or see the weight of evidence leaning towards psi existing are not being skeptical .... but it is nonsense.

Yes I am a skeptic, I have doubts but the weight of evidence leans towards psi existing IMHO .... that doesn't mean I accept claims without questioning.

[CKava]

Originally Posted by Open Mind

It seems die-hard skeptics in here want to rudely interrogate those claiming personal evidence?

This is laughable. Have you ever listened to Alex's interviews? When he doesn't agree with the guest his interviews frequently descend into berating and interrogating his guest as to why they don't agree with him or find what he believes compelling. Suggesting that die-hard skeptics are being rude by wanting Alex to actually ask some challenging questions of guests who he ideologically agrees with is a bit off.

Originally Posted by Open Mind

Ironically skeptical materialists seem to react as if an afterlife claim is harmful to society and almost in the next breath claim human tendency to interpret things as an afterlife probably evolved (i.e. had evolutionary benefits) ..... I don't see Near Death Experiencers becoming a menace to society or worse off after the experience ... so why are skeptical materialists often angry towards those making afterlife claims?

No open mind your mistaking the fact that skeptics don't automatically accept NDE's to be what people claim as being angry rejection. I have no problem with those who have NDE's and believe them to be proof of the afterlife, I think they are mistaken that's all. And that's the same with most skeptics. The frustrating individuals to deal with are people like yourself who seem to delight in making silly arguments and misrepresenting others opinions.